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Monday, March 11, 2013

Mike Capps Leaves Epic Games

Mike Capps Leaves Epic Games

jessicarabbitszs.
Microsoft probably demanded that they make Gears of War 4, 5,and 6 for the Nextbox and they quit
forsakenSam.
I heard some Asian company acquired epic and insteAd of making bigger and more bad as@ games they r going to focus on Mobil games And that y these ppl left
chubdaddyfresh.
You will be missed.
Sgt.Ghost.
Old gamers never die they just get remastered.
PingerZ.
I had a theory that Cliffy B left because they wanted to make another Gears game when he envisioned it would end after 3.
FunLovnCriminal.
Wow Epic.. This is Unreal... Engine... 4... K I give up.
kyky7794.
With all these important people leaving you would think Epic was developing "The Last Guardian" :/
Merex760.
Epic games is about to be acquired by someone. Too many top people leaving around the same time that have been there forever for it to be a coincidence. Whoever it is, they don't approve.
killer666FootSoldier.
Omg epic this thing is killing you, all of you, if you don't make a stand now there will be no one left to get to the chopper!!!
_Mordos_.
Don't you mean GET TA DE CHOPPA!
OsborneLV.
...no
RicardJulianti.
...*now!!!
Lovey0u.
Saying bye to Cliffy Was the hardest thing to do But when someone's a bitch and a liar There ain't nothing left to woo I'm getting rid of Cliffy (he's gotta go) I'm getting rid of the B (he's a no good B) I'm getting rid of Cliffy I'm getting rid of the B (he's a GDB) Take it Pierce!
anoyoikari.
I just hope these guys have all been working together so long that its just a generational change thing. Not a dyer case of abandoning ship as they foresee disaster.
Residentsteve01.
Time for ms to buy gears and pcf.
guch20.
So they can slap Kinect functionality into all their games and ruin everything.
HisDivineOrder.
Things are afoot at Epic. It's quietly losing all its talent and key people. Soon, they'll just be an engine maker. Perhaps they're trimming fat away to set themselves up for a sell-out.
GrimyPlagueBringer.
sell you epic stock
XxSkyfall.
EPIC is dead : Rod, Cliffy b , Del hoyo and now capps ? ouch ....
newtotrolling.
They are still making tons of cash on the engine, he probably has tons of money. Nothing to feel sorry about.
TheGearsStillTurn.
Imminent purchase of Epic Games by Microsoft in 5, 4, 3...
Mik3yFr3sh13.
Microsoft must be pressuring them to milk Gears, and they are tired of it (similar to Bungie with Halo).
chuckratm.
Epic Games is falling apart and will never be the same again. I could do without Cliffy B. and personally think he is overrated, but the departure of all the others is bothersome.
bad_opinion_guy.
Good maybe they can make a different ip instead queers of dildo
soulreaper31337.
Epic will probably go under in a few years, they lost too many of the big name people that defined the studio.
Hobbilis.
Bastards! We demand Unreal Tournament 4!! Do you hear me?! UT 4!! Or else...
JizFunk.
Epic Fail!
Gilly69er.
Its obvious they are tired of the same job and you heard him, a baby just gives more reason for him to leave I bet any one of you would retire if you had as much money as he does
mii-gamer.
wow alot of key players in epic are leaving mii-gamer.com
Focus0894.
..I dunno, seems like everyone's leaving gamedev companies lately. Maybe this is a good sign.. maybe... just maybe, everyone is coming together and pitching in to form their own indie company with no development restrictions, and no huge publisher breathing over their back. Or... Maybe, Gabe Newell is hiring all of them to develop the mighty HALF LIFE 3!! :D hah.. nah i'm just kidding, everyone knows valve can't count to 3
GeneralArrow.
Epic and Bioshock are disintegrating before our eyes...and THQ blew up.
xxkrugenxx.
What chew talkin bout son, bioshock infinite looks awsome
UnknowIGn.
Aw! I bet its all to do with the PS moving in with their new Mambo number 4? BUNGIE!!!!!!!!!!
Boeteloez.
This club died years and years ago for me, when they decided to go console only and fok up Unreal Tournament. I will not miss this dooshbag and Cliff, the whole studio for that matters.
Joecommando85.
Agree. Cliff is a prick.
afrotype.
Going console is not a sin, just an economic choice.
Boeteloez.
Thanks for the reason WHY, but I could not give a rats ass! They still dished the pc gamer and they still fokked up UT.
WarlordReaver.
These are extremely bad times for video gamers...
Philski241.
Cliffy B and Mikey C should post up at Sony.
eXcursionMacDaddy.
There is a lot going on behind the scenes of epic that people must not know . I believe cliffy was pressured to leave epic will not be the same company without cliffy . Long live UT!
Pingaheimer.
Liquidation is nigh.
RicardJulianti.
I'm thinking that some sort of acquisition is going to happen....and they don't like it. Perhaps MS is commissioning another 4 Gears games *ugh* or trying to buy Epic in an attempt to secure some exclusive titles since they don't really have a lot of those.
sparkdawg777.
Insert EPIC joke here ^^^
RicardJulianti.
Someone should be a good Samaritan and lend some Epic help to the people that have left. How many is that now....3....4? It's Unreal. I wounder what the engine is that is driving them out? One thing is for sure, it's all going on in the Shadows and is very Complex. Do I win?
smashU.
CLIFFY B.......he is an Epic joke!
OsborneLV.
E is for Everyone's P is for Poop I is for Is C is for Crap
siavm123.
They epicly capped him.
W1LLEY.
Well this news is just epic
TheCynicalGamer.
You tried really hard there, didn't you?
W1LLEY.
I am referred to as a try hard...
Amauri14.
Yeah, this is just Unreal.
bigspleenattack.
Something is not good at epic when 3 senior people leave in a year. Horribly overrated studio, they made 1 average overrated generic military game in GEars at thats it. Unreal was so long ago.
GamerCanuck.
Gears still remains one of the top selling franchises so I would hardly call it over rated it was a huge success for Epic, not many developers are that successful.
bigspleenattack.
Do you know what overrated means? It sold a lot and wasn't that good, thats overrated, very typical bro love military shooter without brains.
GamerCanuck.
No you think it wasn't very good the fact that it DID sell a lot tells me it is not overrated, overrated is stuff that is hyped but doesn't sell IE PS3 exclusives. Gears games have never disappointed, just cause you don't like them doesn't make them overrated, they are one of the highest selling franchises for a reason.
Lovey0u.
Their unreal engine is top notch, and the Chair Entertainment studio is the best thing to happen to mobile gaming... but yeah, other than that it's surprising they bet all on the mediocre GoW franchise.
brianroque.
Generic as in completely original and created the cover system most games use today? Generic as in the horde mode that most games now have? Also have you seen Fortnite?
DaercomaDoctor.
Bigspleen, where have you been? Were you trapped under your bridge?
Afrovengeance.
Epic is going to be officially bought by Microsoft soon. Count on it. These guys are leaving early so it doesn't look like they just sold the company. Truth is they did.
AbstractMatador.
Yeah this makes me not want to buy epic games,
xfbull.
What's going on is a lot of them are seeing where the gaming industry is going (mobile) and also they hate gamers, especially multiplayer gamers. They are some of the worst, fickle, outspoken, quick-to-hate fans in the world.
abzandercole1.
Man this sucks. I have so many memories with the Gears of War franchise...Now I know they'll never be the same.
THEPANZERTANK.
This is the begging of the end for amazing game companys first blizzard, now epic, whats next VALVE?!!!!
ZyloWolfbane.
Rats are always the first ones to leave a sinking ship.
afrotype.
There might be a valid reason for his departure...
OsborneLV.
I always thought it was mice...
GamerCanuck.
So it seems that Epic cannot survive without MS they tried to make multy plat games but without MS support they can't do it.
Dede1973.
Whatthef..k?
krazymadk5472.
Well good luck in your new Venture Mike. I think it would be in MS & Phil Spencer to inquire about buying the Gears of War IP & the Shadow Complex IP, so in any case it doesn't windup in some fire sale later on.
WaxierCascade.
Epic?..Epic Games?..Is that you?
jayman109.
So he wanted to just go to the gold parties and play test the games while serving on the board? If that's true then he wasn't that crucial to the company anyway. He was already half way out the door. I don't see it as a big deal IMO.
CGE-RE-UP-CA.
According to Cliffy B about 14 months ago he said that epic studios is working on five games and none of them our Gears of war
bigspleenattack.
GEars has gotten stale thats a good thing.
xSINCARAx.
no surprise here >:( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbmobwsgaFs -xSinCarax
Endymionn.
Looks like his gaming career has....capped out. YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHH nope, who cares he has millions anyways.
jessicarabbitszs.
Microsoft probably demanded that they make Gears of War 4, 5,and 6 for the Nextbox and they quit
forsakenSam.
I heard some Asian company acquired epic and insteAd of making bigger and more bad as@ games they r going to focus on Mobil games And that y these ppl left
chubdaddyfresh.
You will be missed.
Sgt.Ghost.
Old gamers never die they just get remastered.
PingerZ.
I had a theory that Cliffy B left because they wanted to make another Gears game when he envisioned it would end after 3.
FunLovnCriminal.
Wow Epic.. This is Unreal... Engine... 4... K I give up.
kyky7794.
With all these important people leaving you would think Epic was developing "The Last Guardian" :/
Merex760.
Epic games is about to be acquired by someone. Too many top people leaving around the same time that have been there forever for it to be a coincidence. Whoever it is, they don't approve.
killer666FootSoldier.
Omg epic this thing is killing you, all of you, if you don't make a stand now there will be no one left to get to the chopper!!!
_Mordos_.
Don't you mean GET TA DE CHOPPA!
OsborneLV.
...no
RicardJulianti.
...*now!!!
Lovey0u.
Saying bye to Cliffy Was the hardest thing to do But when someone's a bitch and a liar There ain't nothing left to woo I'm getting rid of Cliffy (he's gotta go) I'm getting rid of the B (he's a no good B) I'm getting rid of Cliffy I'm getting rid of the B (he's a GDB) Take it Pierce!
anoyoikari.
I just hope these guys have all been working together so long that its just a generational change thing. Not a dyer case of abandoning ship as they foresee disaster.
Residentsteve01.
Time for ms to buy gears and pcf.
guch20.
So they can slap Kinect functionality into all their games and ruin everything.
HisDivineOrder.
Things are afoot at Epic. It's quietly losing all its talent and key people. Soon, they'll just be an engine maker. Perhaps they're trimming fat away to set themselves up for a sell-out.
GrimyPlagueBringer.
sell you epic stock
XxSkyfall.
EPIC is dead : Rod, Cliffy b , Del hoyo and now capps ? ouch ....
newtotrolling.
They are still making tons of cash on the engine, he probably has tons of money. Nothing to feel sorry about.
TheGearsStillTurn.
Imminent purchase of Epic Games by Microsoft in 5, 4, 3...
Mik3yFr3sh13.
Microsoft must be pressuring them to milk Gears, and they are tired of it (similar to Bungie with Halo).
chuckratm.
Epic Games is falling apart and will never be the same again. I could do without Cliffy B. and personally think he is overrated, but the departure of all the others is bothersome.
bad_opinion_guy.
Good maybe they can make a different ip instead queers of dildo
soulreaper31337.
Epic will probably go under in a few years, they lost too many of the big name people that defined the studio.
Hobbilis.
Bastards! We demand Unreal Tournament 4!! Do you hear me?! UT 4!! Or else...
JizFunk.
Epic Fail!
Gilly69er.
Its obvious they are tired of the same job and you heard him, a baby just gives more reason for him to leave I bet any one of you would retire if you had as much money as he does
mii-gamer.
wow alot of key players in epic are leaving mii-gamer.com
Focus0894.
..I dunno, seems like everyone's leaving gamedev companies lately. Maybe this is a good sign.. maybe... just maybe, everyone is coming together and pitching in to form their own indie company with no development restrictions, and no huge publisher breathing over their back. Or... Maybe, Gabe Newell is hiring all of them to develop the mighty HALF LIFE 3!! :D hah.. nah i'm just kidding, everyone knows valve can't count to 3
GeneralArrow.
Epic and Bioshock are disintegrating before our eyes...and THQ blew up.
xxkrugenxx.
What chew talkin bout son, bioshock infinite looks awsome
UnknowIGn.
Aw! I bet its all to do with the PS moving in with their new Mambo number 4? BUNGIE!!!!!!!!!!
Boeteloez.
This club died years and years ago for me, when they decided to go console only and fok up Unreal Tournament. I will not miss this dooshbag and Cliff, the whole studio for that matters.
Joecommando85.
Agree. Cliff is a prick.
afrotype.
Going console is not a sin, just an economic choice.
Boeteloez.
Thanks for the reason WHY, but I could not give a rats ass! They still dished the pc gamer and they still fokked up UT.
WarlordReaver.
These are extremely bad times for video gamers...
Philski241.
Cliffy B and Mikey C should post up at Sony.
eXcursionMacDaddy.
There is a lot going on behind the scenes of epic that people must not know . I believe cliffy was pressured to leave epic will not be the same company without cliffy . Long live UT!
Pingaheimer.
Liquidation is nigh.
RicardJulianti.
I'm thinking that some sort of acquisition is going to happen....and they don't like it. Perhaps MS is commissioning another 4 Gears games *ugh* or trying to buy Epic in an attempt to secure some exclusive titles since they don't really have a lot of those.
sparkdawg777.
Insert EPIC joke here ^^^
RicardJulianti.
Someone should be a good Samaritan and lend some Epic help to the people that have left. How many is that now....3....4? It's Unreal. I wounder what the engine is that is driving them out? One thing is for sure, it's all going on in the Shadows and is very Complex. Do I win?
smashU.
CLIFFY B.......he is an Epic joke!
OsborneLV.
E is for Everyone's P is for Poop I is for Is C is for Crap
siavm123.
They epicly capped him.
W1LLEY.
Well this news is just epic
TheCynicalGamer.
You tried really hard there, didn't you?
W1LLEY.
I am referred to as a try hard...
Amauri14.
Yeah, this is just Unreal.
bigspleenattack.
Something is not good at epic when 3 senior people leave in a year. Horribly overrated studio, they made 1 average overrated generic military game in GEars at thats it. Unreal was so long ago.
GamerCanuck.
Gears still remains one of the top selling franchises so I would hardly call it over rated it was a huge success for Epic, not many developers are that successful.
bigspleenattack.
Do you know what overrated means? It sold a lot and wasn't that good, thats overrated, very typical bro love military shooter without brains.
GamerCanuck.
No you think it wasn't very good the fact that it DID sell a lot tells me it is not overrated, overrated is stuff that is hyped but doesn't sell IE PS3 exclusives. Gears games have never disappointed, just cause you don't like them doesn't make them overrated, they are one of the highest selling franchises for a reason.
Lovey0u.
Their unreal engine is top notch, and the Chair Entertainment studio is the best thing to happen to mobile gaming... but yeah, other than that it's surprising they bet all on the mediocre GoW franchise.
brianroque.
Generic as in completely original and created the cover system most games use today? Generic as in the horde mode that most games now have? Also have you seen Fortnite?
DaercomaDoctor.
Bigspleen, where have you been? Were you trapped under your bridge?
Afrovengeance.
Epic is going to be officially bought by Microsoft soon. Count on it. These guys are leaving early so it doesn't look like they just sold the company. Truth is they did.
AbstractMatador.
Yeah this makes me not want to buy epic games,
xfbull.
What's going on is a lot of them are seeing where the gaming industry is going (mobile) and also they hate gamers, especially multiplayer gamers. They are some of the worst, fickle, outspoken, quick-to-hate fans in the world.
abzandercole1.
Man this sucks. I have so many memories with the Gears of War franchise...Now I know they'll never be the same.
THEPANZERTANK.
This is the begging of the end for amazing game companys first blizzard, now epic, whats next VALVE?!!!!
ZyloWolfbane.
Rats are always the first ones to leave a sinking ship.
afrotype.
There might be a valid reason for his departure...
OsborneLV.
I always thought it was mice...
GamerCanuck.
So it seems that Epic cannot survive without MS they tried to make multy plat games but without MS support they can't do it.
Dede1973.
Whatthef..k?
krazymadk5472.
Well good luck in your new Venture Mike. I think it would be in MS & Phil Spencer to inquire about buying the Gears of War IP & the Shadow Complex IP, so in any case it doesn't windup in some fire sale later on.
WaxierCascade.
Epic?..Epic Games?..Is that you?
jayman109.
So he wanted to just go to the gold parties and play test the games while serving on the board? If that's true then he wasn't that crucial to the company anyway. He was already half way out the door. I don't see it as a big deal IMO.
CGE-RE-UP-CA.
According to Cliffy B about 14 months ago he said that epic studios is working on five games and none of them our Gears of war
bigspleenattack.
GEars has gotten stale thats a good thing.
xSINCARAx.
no surprise here >:( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbmobwsgaFs -xSinCarax
Endymionn.
Looks like his gaming career has....capped out. YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHH nope, who cares he has millions anyways.
burntice619.
First Cliffy B, now the Pres? Whats going on Epic?
BIGDOOKY15.
First it was Rod Ferguson then it was Cliffy B. Seriously, WTF IS GOING ON?
Oldschool_1987.
Everytime I shave my testicles I cut myself and it hurts.
OsborneLV.
use Nair, hairy balls rubbed clean in a matter of minutes! works great on the butthole too! o.O Warning: You have to consider yourself a real Hulk before attempting the "Nairless Nuts and Butts" procedure
Yatrix30.
I...I got nothing.
Lovey0u.
I'm confident that a burning rectum is nothing new to him nor his transexual friend
Oldschool_1987.
Haha, git. Have a mrs though pal :p
ShodanRob.
Agreed. It will literally burn you for 2 days...but then it gets better.
Oldschool_1987.
And buttholes!? Thank you kind sir!
_Mordos_.
Funny as I taught you had no balls.
tychoc4.
They teach that now? I weep for our children.
hardcorelogo.
funny comment,if you spelled it right.
Oldschool_1987.
Nope, that's yourself haha.
RadioControlPilot.
I used to shave my testicles but then I took an arrow to the knee...
Tyguy555.
Really? Still using that one? You're a little late. Yours isn't even clever OR funny.
askforgreg1216.
its a little funny in that it makes no sense..lol i smiled.
York_256.
For the love of God, don't leave it on for too long. Once I left it on for a couple minutes past the recommended time and literally had burns. It hurt, it hurt like hell for about a week.
AFXAcid37.
First it was Rod Fergusson, then Lee Perry (their most important loss in my eyes), then Cliffy B, then Adrian Chmielarz, then Quinn Delhoyo and finally Mike Capps.
remidee727.
this is not good and from the looks of Gears of War Judgement their going with a silly tone. I was hoping Gears was going to capture the tone of Gears 1,2,3, commericals and have a more darker tone. the impressions I get from Judgement is it going to be silly over the top like Bulletstrom which sucks. This series would benifit from a more serious take on the material such as what they did with the amazing new Tomb Raider game.
remidee727.
Allow me to clarify. What I wanted to say is gears 1-3 never captured the mature tone that the commercials led us to believe. Imagine a Gears game with the actual tone to the amazing commercials/music they used.
theseeker2654.
What? you mean killing people and chest thumping dialogue isnt mature? Shocker...
reiniat.
WTF??? only Gears 1 was dark and grittier, the other games were colorful excepting for their trailers, this game was never mean to be darker. Especially not since Gears 3
mcquack306.
*SPOILER ALERT* How is GOW2 & 3 not as dark and gritty? The death of multiple characters from GoW 2 was really depressing. Especially Dom's wife Maria. Then even more on GoW3 with Dom's death and the way he went out. And final scene with Marcus losing a "brother" to find his father only to have his father kill himself in order to win the fight.. not that much of a happy ending
reiniat.
Let me go trough this quickly: Maria dies :(.....Tai dies :(...youre right Gears 2 is dark and gritty (i had completely forgotten that). Gears 3: Dom dies with a big efffing bang that last TOO LONG, thats not dark, is pure pirotechnia...Then we have a fresh presented character that was supposed dead, dying "heroically" in the end. NO, sorry but Gears3 was a terrible end for the trilogy. But yeah. Gears 2 was good.
mcquack306.
A death is a death. Especially of that of a main character like Dom. Going out to protect his squad and his brothers. I believe that's a good way to darken the tone. And although we never saw Adam Fenix throughout the trilogy, it still was a bit depressing because we weren't connected to Adam but with Marcus. Losing two key components in his life. We never saw Maria until GoW2 but we felt somehow connected with Dom's pain because we associate with his pain than the fate that landed on Maria. Both brothers lost someone that was in their hearts. I felt more for these characters than with 2/3 Carmine's deaths
remidee727.
They attempted it but ultimately failed. Dom's death and the ending knife scene are the only things that held weight IMO.
hoangster.
Judgement does have a Bulletstorm polish to it, colorful and comedic. Gears did evolve to be more colorful over the years though, all the maps in 1 were almost monochrome. Then 2 brightened it up a bit with Jacinto and brighter armors. Gears 3 increased the saturation which isn't all a bad thing. However Judgement just feesl different already under new leadership. TDM is now blue COGs vs. red COGs, not red Locusts. That was the defining universe of Gears...COGs vs Locusts.
3ddyh6n.
Family is going on. Cliffy got married and Capps got his baby on the way. I think in Rod's case he saw bigger and better things with Irrational.
TecHead5.
Tim Sweeney is next.
xMechanizex.
Dont' forget Quinn DelHoyo, who recently left Epic to work at 343 Industries.
barnebyjones.
There must have been a rumor that EA wants to buy them out?
NaughtyDan69.
I thought that but then remembered that they`ve just commissioned the new Frostbite engine for all their new games. Activision?...............
gojiwarrior.
They don't want to be epic anymore.
madberty23.
But drop down a level to Awesome Games.
garyb2220Hand.
"Okay games" ... loose a few more. "Meh Games"... loose another developer "Book Shelf Games".... a few more "Free to play"
dponeil.
Yeah, this is really strange. What IS going on??
graymatter05.
They've pretty much lost all of their key figures. Is there something we're missing here?
DemonicChidori.
Hmm...a studio that makes a franchise exclusivley for Microsoft is losing its original people all at once...sounds familar...cough* RareWare cough*
mikeguy2225.
I remember when Rare was good, when they made games for Nintendo.
DemonicChidori.
Hey, they still make good games like...Banjo Kazooie nuts and bolts...and kinect sports.....excuse me for a moment i forgot to hug my N64 while crying today
SiR_WiGsPLiTtER.
Haha I remember that loser that claimed to be Cliffy B on here ... aaaaa good times good times ....
slbrey.
Thing is nobody cares about "cliffy b" he was just some self entitled fag.
theseeker2654.
Anyone that self applies the name cliffy b is a douchebag IMO. Kinda like that idiot Mc G. I mean REALLY?!!?
UnrealLuigi.
Sad news.. End of an era. Hopefully Epic remains its amazing self despite all these departures
fabjtown12.
Should have took Gears multi platform...cough.. :D
davidani1997.
Taken*
fabjtown12.
thanks dad
pahlke.
Got bored with generic bro shooter Gears of War.
wills_b.
Ditto. I could be completely wrong but I sense a massive amount of ambivalence toward the new GOW game. Compare it to something like a new Halo, COD, Uncharted etc etc and it seems to have had none of the hype or excitement (regardless of your feelings towards those franchises). And this is two games after the first came out and was a critical, commercial and public love affair.
walrus131mauler.
Gears has multiplayer that actually takes skill. The campaign is Generic but the multiplayer is unique which is why Judgement is trying to be generic.
pahlke.
Skill? Camp with shotgun is skill I guess.
theseeker2654.
I did too. Only thing that saved GoW 3 slightly was the admittedly fun Hoarde mode.
arshille.ecks.
Why do I get the feeling Epic signed some sort of exclusivity deal with Microsoft where all IP's will be Xbox exclusives for the foreseeable future? Obviously if that's the case, they'd retain the right to license Unreal Engine as they see fit.....When C. Bleszinski left, I figured he did not want to make Gears games for the rest of his life, which is what would have ended up happening...
THEPANZERTANK.
i feel that Microsoft are a bunch of assholes... they dont know how to share there toys with the other boys and girls "its all about me! ME ME ME!!!" Xbox needs a new set of parents.....
wills_b.
Is that really any different to Sony? They don't want to share anything they don't have to in order to try and make money. The only difference is Sony tends to own the studios and Microsoft is trying to lock down exclusivity with independent companies. Lets face it MS, Sony, Apple, etc would all exclusively license you the oxygen you breath if they could.
El_Wray88.
Yeah but Sony gives their studios freedom. Naughty Dog made a high seller in the Jak and Daxter series but they wanted to do a new IP for PS3, Sony let them. Same thing with Sucker Punch. Sucker Punch even took 3 years making the first inFAMOUS game and Sony offered to give them more employees but they said no and Sony didn't push the subject any further. Media Molecule said they wanted to move on from LittleBigPlanet, Sony is letting them. Insomniac and Quantic Dream aren't owned by them but they gave them freedom to develop for whoever they want to and those developers have been very loyal to Sony as a reward. As opposed to Bungie who sold the rights to one of, if not THE, best selling franchises in the industry just so they could escape Microsoft and stop making Halo games. Then the obvious implosion at Rare. Ensemble studios anyone? They made the great Age of Empires game but they make a game that has the Halo name slapped on it and they are shut down. The guys who made Crackdown. Microsoft forced a bunch of other studios to make 2 with them and effed the whole game up, should've just trusted them with their own damn game. Now Epic is coming undone but we have no idea if Microsoft is behind this so I won't jump to conclusions.
wills_b.
You make valid points. And certainly at the launch of the Xbox and PS3 the Sony exclusives looked a little laughable compared to what you could get on the Xbox (Halo, Bioshock, GOW, Forza, Mass Effect, PGR3, better versions of games like the Orange Box) but gradually Sony seemed to have tilted the balance the other way. Whilst I'm no fan boy I definitely prefer my Xbox to my PS3, but I must admit I'm a little concerned about what MS can possibly conjure up to rival what Sony seem to have to offer. The only thing I can think of that would make them a clear "winner" at this stage is if they turn up to E3 and announce Half Life 3 as an xbox console exclusive, and that's just not going to happen. I think you're probably painting a slightly rosy picture of reality, I doubt that Bungies only reason for their actions was MS, Ensemble was handed one of the world's most lucrative franschises, so I don't see how you can blame that for its demise, and I'm sure that all of the studios that you mention have financial incentives to remaining with Sony. Also Sony shut down Psygnosis/Sony Liverpool so these things occur in both companies. But all that said it certainly seems like at the moment Sony is more willing to take a bit of creative risk than MS is. Or to put that another way, MS might be happy to take creative risks, but it's difficult to see what studios they have at the moment to take them.
El_Wray88.
Oh yeah, from 2005-2007/8, Microsoft for sure had the better exclusives and is why I got a 360 first. ME, Bioshock, Call of Duty 2, PGR3/4 and the promise of Alan Wake. But that changed in late 2007 and 2008 for me. Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank, MGS4 and LBP swayed me over to PS3 and now I definitely prefer Sony to Microsoft. As for the Bungie subject, they wanted to stop making Halo games and Microsoft owned them so they got to decide what they wanted to do. I heard rumors that they didn't even want to make Halo Reach. And with Ensemble, they weren't handed the Halo franchise, they literally finished an RTS game that Microsoft forced them to change to become a Halo spin-off and like reiniat mentioned, Bungie started bringing the micromanagement hammer down on them and when the game underperformed, Microsoft dismantled the studio after forcing them to make a game they didn't want to. Oh and Peter Molyneux (that how you spell it?) left his own company too to go work on other stuff, but whether that is good or bad is debatable. I've grown to dislike Microsoft a lot over the past 4 years and really side with Sony despite their garbage marketing that I only care about because it causes studios to close down when they mishandle their games (Zipper, BigBig and ending their relationship with Superbot). I will say that people don't communicate as much as they do on Xbox which sucks but the online communities last way longer. LBP 1 and 2 are still highly populated and even SOCOM 4 which most people don't even like. I don't know, I'm waiting to see what Microsoft has in store for the next generation but seeing where things have gone recently with Xbox, I'm not enthused but we have to remember that 360 was strong with games years ago.
wills_b.
Yeah I got a PS3 for Heavy Rain and Uncharted 1&2. Haven't played much else on it to be honest. I'll remain with the Xbox until it becomes totally illogical to do so because I really hate the PS controller, always have. The Bungie/Halo/MS story is a bit of a weird one, and everything we're saying is all conjecture. Yes, Bungie said they felt they were done with Halo, but they also developed ODST and Reach after going independent. Perhaps that was part of the terms of the negotiation, who knows. What I don't understand is why MS, who owns Bungie and the rights to Halo, would allow the developer to shear off and be independent at all. Presumably if they had so much control they could have just farmed Halo out to 343 and let Bungie try whatever they wanted. Lets face facts, Bungie are making Destiny, so its not THAT different from Halo, I'm sure MS would have been happy to have let them get on with it. Like I say I'm just sure there's more to the story than we know. NB nice to have a conversation that doesn't involve flaming.
reiniat.
Actually, YES the only reason for Bungie to abandon their beloved Halo was Microsoft pressure and control over the projects. But the Ensemble problem is also fault of Bungie, they put to much pressure on them because they didnt wanted something ugly with the results....And then they concluded that it was a good spin-off, but Ensemble died. I bought a 360 for this gen and besides from Halo (not including Halo 4) i regreted this, next gen im coming back to the Sony realm, or buying a PC rig (or the SteamBox). And most of my dislike for the actual 360 is also for the community, 360 gamers are a bunch of consumers who doesnt play games that are 1 or just 2 years old, they only gather over the next Halo, Gears or COD, till the new COD goes out...Then they only gather to COD....
wills_b.
I'm surprised you say that you regret the decision to buy a 360. Frankly I think that there's been remarkably little to choose between them, other than a few niche interest games. Take ~4 games from each console and port them to the other and I think they're pretty much equal. I think the criticism of 360 gamers is pretty short sighted. I've seen plenty of people playing older games I guess it just depends on what you're after. By definition any gamer on any system is a consumer, but that's not necessarily a fault. I'm sure that there will be a lot of people who only hop from one COD to the next on both systems, likewise there are still people playing Forza 4.
El_Wray88.
There are a lot of differences between the PS3 and Xbox 360 man. PS3 has a ridiculously large amount of exclusives and most of them are really good. They have HD collections that others don't have like Splinter Cell and Prince of Persia. The online is free, PS Plus, the online COMMUNITY, not the online itself, isn't as social though. The netflix doesn't require a subscription to Sony to use and the layout is better with better graphics for their streaming. Blu-ray, along with cross play for a few games. Something I enjoy is that I can buy PSP or Vita spin offs of my favorite franchises and store the data on my PS3, collect Vita trophies along with my main trophies and the great selection of PS1 games. They are finally starting to add PS2 games and all the good Rockstar games are getting on there. XBLA probably has more good arcade games but PSN has some really awesome ones. NOt to mention the minis, Playstation Eye and Move games you can get which aren't great but they are there. I personally like the controller but I have been using it for like 10 years consistently but I think it's a matter of personal preference so whatever. If you prefer a more streamlined Crossbar then PS3 is for you, I personally hate all the ads on my 360 (which just broke for a third time too; disc drive can't read discs anymore). There is no cross party chat for PS3 and the motion gaming base isn't as large as 360 if that's what you are into.
reiniat.
Yeah but Sony doesnt overrape their IPs, Naughty Dog as example does one new IP each gen...AND FREEDOM, ALL YOU NEED IS FREEDOM (and love)
wills_b.
Not sure I agree to be honest. Naughty Dog is on its second new IP no? Microsoft has released 6 Halo games this generation (Halo 3, ODST, Reach, Halo Wars, Halo: CE Anniversary and Halo 4), and one of those was a remake. Or put another way, since 2007 there have been 3 Uncharted games, and 2 spin offs. In the same time, 4 actual Halo games, one spin off and one remake. I don't think either franchise feels 'overraped'. Whilst that's quite a few, I can't think of any other MS franchise that has similar numbers, and it's not dissimilar to what God Of War has seen across several platforms, which is up to 7 I think? And I've lost count of Motorstorm games. It's not like we're talking about COD, FIFA or Assassins Creed!
El_Wray88.
Uncharted started this generation though and it did a trilogy. There was a vita game and a vita card game, the card game isn't canon, costs $5 and is essentially a cell phone game so that doesn't count really. While there have been 6 Halo games this generation and two on the last. But, one is a spin-off, one was an overpriced remake and one was an over-priced expansion. God of War has only had 2 PS2 games, 2 PSP games, 2 PS3 games and three collections, two of which were half price to begin with and the last had 5 games in it but I can't remember if it was $50 or $60 when it came out, which is still a steal. So not really the same thing at all. As for Motorstorm, it started on this gen with 3 games for PS3, a PSP/PS2 game and a Vita/PSN game. The difference being that all of these Halo games have been for the Xbox 360 and all been $60 even though two of those should have been $30-$40 max. Uncharted had 3 games but a portable spin-off, that gives it a ton of more variety in my book but it's just an opinion. I think Halo is oversaturated with 6 games on one console, none of which are portable or were priced lower or anything.
Malcolm_Reynolds.
All the names at Epic are jumping ship b/c they are tired of stagnating thanks to trapping themselves under MS thumb with whatever agreements are in place for Gears. Peter Molyneaux, Bungie in its entirety.....notice a bigger picture here? Its not people leaving studios. Its people escaping the cancer that is MS.
Alebelly.
With Rod, Epic gave him a big, public flowery send off. With Mike, Epic came out with a public love letter and said he wasn't going anywhere yet. With Cliffy, Epic, well Epic never said a thing a bout Cliffy.
XBOXFOREVER.
You guys, about 3 people left Epic of Hundreds so relax, there RICH B!TCH i cant wait for all those amazing Xbox exclusives...
UnknowIGn.
Well now that Ps4 is here you will see another 'Bungie style' slide across to the PLAYSTATION Muuhahahahaha!!!! All Xbox games will be ours HAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Probably...
THEPANZERTANK.
I have a feeling your about 85% right about that mate.... XBOX is having a hell of a hard time to keep up with first party exclusives, Playstation is leaps and bounds ahead of XBOX that way.... XBOX gotts HALO and gears of war and .... well thats it... play station got ten to every 2 XBOX got so about 10 exclusive which i can think on top of my head little big plantit uncharted... and so on you get the pic i hope
OsborneLV.
true, when bungie announced exclusive stuff for the PS4 via Destiny I thought to myself DAM! that's one cold hearted biotch! Always thought Bungie was like xbox's right hand man
XBOXFOREVER.
Destiny will have Xbox exclusives aswell, its how it works you dont think that Playstation can shell out more cash than Microsoft do you?
CriticalBullshit.
Yeah I feel the same way. I also hate it when *some* people say "quality over quantity." Just because PlayStation has a large amount of exclusives doesn't mean they aren't quality games, in fact they are ranked among the best around these days. So PlayStation has Quality and Quantity!
XBOXFOREVER.
They might be good games but your Online service/Network PSN is rubbish, its all about the Online play and thats were i feel PS is lacking most
XBOXFOREVER.
i have a feeling that PSN might get hacked again
XBOXFOREVER.
Online sucks on Playstation though... sorry
theseeker2654.
yea... the ONLY argument xbots have over psn is going away next gen. PS4 will have cross game chat. so yea, invalid argument.
El_Wray88.
Your name clearly shows your inner fanboyism
X_jack_rabbit_X.
Destiny just doesn't get me interested like Halo did. There was a unique look to Halo at the time. This looks like Side story DLC....lol For the record I'm burnt out on Halo so maybe that's why this world doesn't seem appealing to me.
RicardJulianti.
First of all, it's not about the number of people...it's their importance to the company. Cliffy B and Rod Fergusson were major players in Gears of War....Epic's biggest hit since Unreal Tournament. Capps was the president. It's simply bizarre that three people of such a high level left the company. If three unknown dudes left the company we would shrug our shoulders and say, "And? Why do we care?" Secondly, *they're
XBOXFOREVER.
Grammer nazi? your pro lololol piss off
X_jack_rabbit_X.
Yawn, all this gears shit bores me now. You know what IP I think People Can Fly would have done well with...Unreal Tournament. I used to be big into gears but when that's all there is I get sick. Mix it up, we haven't had an Unreal in a while. Sigh...even if they just used Gears playstyle and gave it a Unreal makeover. I don't care just give us something new or different. I really do not understand how all of you COD fans can buy that rubbish year after year. Sure it may not broken but how are you not bored with it?
sonicboom343.
Not everyone has been playing it since the beginning, I got Blops 2 last christmas and Blops was my first COD. I still enjoy the game but it is beginning to feel like old hat after my second game.
X_jack_rabbit_X.
That is a good point Sonic, though no offense, I was calling out to those who buy it year after year. The games play and look so similar to each other I don't know why they just don't save some time and extend the shit out of it with DLC. I guess I'm just tired of buying maps for a game only to have a new one come out the year after making all my map purchases worthless because everyone would have jumped ship to the new game. I guess it wouldn't be so bad if I could at least get a HEAVY discount on maps remade from maps I already have PURCHASED on my account.
ZeRoberto2518.
i just want to give u a thumbs up for ur username
apg1.
RIP Cliffy B.
walrus131mauler.
Judgement is coming! They Don't want to be around for that train wreck!
blastzone.
Pushed out
ilfito.
Are they too embarrassed to be around when Judgement comes out?
djam2410.
May his life be as EPIC as the first half of it
WalterWhite737.
Here, take my glases (⌐■_■) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ YEEEAAAHHH
dazillet01.
What is going on there everyone is leaving this company probably tired of just making gears games. I assume they signed a long term deal with ms to keep working exclusively on gears that's why everyone is leaving....
AUSTIOPOROSIS.
xbox needs to keep it's exclusives and Gears and Halo are two of the big ones that stand out.
dazillet01.
OK fine but someone else can make a gears game sign epic to do a new Ip .
JamF100.
Microsoft doesn't own Epic and Epic owns Gears.
dazillet01.
I know they signed a deal so m$ gets gears for like ten games, I am pretty sure epic would've been fine with letting someone else make gears like there doing now even tho they own people can fly..They still would get money then let MS sign epic to create a new ip, it would be a win win for everyone ..They would get gears and a new IP without losing all of there most talented devs.. Now epic is a shell of what is was they ade gears in the first place...
AUSTIOPOROSIS.
Don't get me wrong I like gears 1, 2, 3 but to be honest I have no incentive to buy the next gears game because I'm in post-secondary. At the same time what I do love more are new IPs. We haven't seen many good horror or "real" RPG games for along time now. Watch Dogs is a prime example of what can happen when time and effort is put into a new IP.
Malcolm_Reynolds.
Theyre two of their only four. Don't forget Forza and LoLFailble and....and.....ummmm......oh well at least you xchums have Kinect.
THEPANZERTANK.
yup i getting sick of thinking this but your on to something there dazillt epic is stuck, like Bungey was stuck making halo games and that because we the consumer ("according to sales state") dont like new IP and we want more of the same ( how many call of dutys do we got 12, 13 now or we will get there at this rate) and were on the 4 Gears game too....i so sick of seeing the same game get made time and time, it the same game with the same price point we game last time 60$ and we keep just giving then 60$... GOD help the mainstream gaming industry were not going to see as many new (high budget) game come out...were going to see more " oh this is the same game #3 and this is #5 and this is #10000 of the same game" Maybe thats the reason Mike Capps letf epic he didnt want to get locked into making a 5 greas game or a 6 one or a 7 one because you and me both know whats were its going... GOD helps us..
hardcorelogo.
One thing I learned in life, if you cant be creative in at least some aspects of your job, you will not be happy.

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