Max Woolf · Top Commenter · Carnegie Mellon University
The really crazy statistic here is that Blackberry still has 9% market share.
Reply · 54 · · September 26 at 10:10am
George Tinari · Top Commenter · Notre Dame High School
That, my friend, just earned you one new subscriber on Facebook.
Reply · 8 · · September 26 at 10:11am
Mattieu Gamache-Asselin · University of Ottawa
BB has much more than 9% market share... This is sales not market share.
Reply · 12 · · September 26 at 10:49am
Ethan Samuel Brockman · El Centro
What's even more notable is that Android isn't taking away from iPhone Sales, it's taking away from Blackberry, Windows Phone,Web OS, Bada, and Symbian. I mean Blackberry sales have halved!
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Donnacha Mac Gloinn · Top Commenter · Owner at WordSkill.com
Android Saw Twice As Many Buyers... but the guy in the store lied and told half of them that what they were getting was "exactly the same as an iPhone.
Reply · 37 · · September 26 at 10:45am
Nick Scarantino · Food Services at Cornerstone University
That's not a lie considering the fact that Androids are better.
Reply · 54 · · September 26 at 11:36am
Andrew Warren
The guy that sold me my Android phone told me it was much better than the iPhone and he sold iPhones too.
Reply · 9 · · September 26 at 11:42am
Donnacha Mac Gloinn · Top Commenter · Owner at WordSkill.com
Andrew Warren - most Android phones come with incentive competitions and bonus schemes for the salespeople, iPhones are unusual in that they do not.
A quick rule-of-thumb to help customers to determine if a cellphone salesperson is lying: his lips are moving.
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Abelardo Duarte Rey · Universidad de los Andes
Nevertheless Android is doing very well, It´s a great platform, good to have the choice as a consumer.
Reply · 20 · · September 26 at 10:18am
Shane Tebeck · Supervisor at Teen Challenge Portland
I'm very pro iPhone, but I agree that choice and competition is a very good thing for everyone
Reply · 4 · · September 26 at 1:08pm
Daniel Dove
I wonder how tablet sales will impact the overall adoption of Android vs iOS?
Reply · · September 26 at 4:02pm
Justin Herrick · Top Commenter · Developer and Social Maven at Dumbpunk
Yes, I am entirely *shocked* and *flabergasted* that a 1 year old phone model coupled with a 2 year old phone model available on only two networks sold only half of what about 2 dozen brand new phone models sold on the combined total of every network.... oh yah, and those android ones are heavily subsidized.... so wait, what were talking about again?
Reply · 10 · · September 26 at 11:36am
James Pakele · Top Commenter · Waianae High School
We're talking about how Apple fell so far behind on the innovation front that their delayed phone is about to be released that would help it "catch up" to Android FroYo...
Reply · 5 · · September 26 at 3:22pm
Hari Prasanth · SSR2 at Unisys
Justin .. The price part of it .. IMO iPhone is not worth more than $300 .. The reason why it is priced so much is because of the brand APPLE. Also Android is being upgraded much faster than iOS which is another reason why you see more Android phones in the market. Also an iPhone consists of only a certain spec sheet. But Android consists of almost all possible hardware configuration. I personally like that choice because if I want to have an latest iOS experience I have to go for iPhone 4 where in if I want to go for the latest Android Gingerbread experience I have a variety of choices both by hardware and price which suits me better. Also in the US and Europe the iPhone's and Android phones are subsidized but in other countries both of them cost more or less the same ( I am talking about high end android phones ).
Reply · · September 26 at 3:31pm
Justin Herrick · Top Commenter · Developer and Social Maven at Dumbpunk
James Pakele That makes total sense, except for that its not true. I have an ipod touch with iOS 5 and an Samsung Captivate with 2.2 on it and the difference is stark. The ipod touch is bounds ahead of my actual phone in terms of battery life, screen quality, responsiveness, startup time, shutdown time, UI, user flow, etc etc etc. I've been an android user for 3 years and I can say with full confidence that it is behind iOS in terms of useful features. Even rooting my phones have only added passing interest and functionality to a less than satisfactory device. My original comment was showing how ludicrous this graph is, you are not comparing on equal footing or even comparing like products.
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Don Zurbrick
You hit it with the last paragraph.
Reply · 10 · · September 26 at 10:08am
Bryson Panas · Account Executive at Liquidfish
Don't you think the drop in iPhone sales is coming from people waiting on the iPhone 5 to come out? Wait till it comes out and then do this study...
Reply · 9 · · September 26 at 11:14am
Derek Yates
Look again there was no drop in iphone sales. It was blackberry and others that dropped. And if you look Phone by Phone the number 1 and 2 best selling smartphone is the iphone 4 and 3gs. Android's OS outsells simply cause it is on more phones but no one android phone can beat the IPhone.
Reply · 3 · · September 26 at 1:44pm
Derek Yates
sorry let me finish that statement......beat the IPhone in sells. Features and other options is all personal choice and another conversation.
Reply · 1 · · September 26 at 1:46pm
Storm Walsh · Amsterdam, Netherlands
Derek Yates No one Android phone can beat the iPhone? Have you been paying attention over the last year? There are now *many* phones running Android OS that beat the current iPhone 4 in every single category!
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David Kramer · Cleveland, Ohio
I like my iPhone, but miss things that my Blackberry did with no problem. The iPhone seems to be holding back simple functionality so that Verizon, or whomever, can charge more for the feature.
For instance, I had a Blackberry app that blocked calls for numbers I chose or from an unknown caller by either hanging up on them or directing them to VM, at my discretion. The iPhone has no such app. Also, why is there such a lack of simple SMS tones? There are other things as well.
You shouldn't have to jailbreak your iPhone to get it to do things you want it to do. After all, we own it.
Reply · 6 · · September 26 at 12:42pm
Chris Pergantis · Georgia Tech
In the US no one owns their smart phones - for the greater part they are all leased to use in the cost of the service. If we were able to buy a phone and then choose who we wanted as a carrier then I could agree that we own them.
Reply · 1 · · September 26 at 3:03pm
James Pakele · Top Commenter · Waianae High School
Google Voice will help with call screening, no matter which phone you're using...
As for the other things... well, iPhone is simple, but with simplicity comes lack of functionality
Reply · · September 26 at 3:19pm
Craig Stiles · Layton, Utah
Chris Pergantis That's not true. We pay for our phones over the life of our contract, but it's not a lease because we don't have to give our phone back at the end of the term. The fact that most people choose to get a new phone on contract every time they're eligible to doesn't change the fact that the old one is still yours.
That said, you may own your iPhone, but Apple owns you. Isn't that how it works?
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Rodrigo Carvalho
So you are saying that one phone launched in mid-2010, alone, has half the market share of hundreds of Android devices, many of which launched last month? Wow.
Reply · 6 · · September 26 at 10:22am
Loy Cletcher III · Peoria, Illinois
FYI, the iPhone has the 5th version coming out soon. Not sure when 4th version released but it wasn't that long ago.
Reply · 1 · · September 26 at 12:04pm
Rodrigo Carvalho
It was mid-2010, on WWDC. The iPhone 5 is the 1st iPhone not to be released in june, if I’m not mistaken.
Reply · 2 · · September 26 at 12:06pm
Loy Cletcher III · Peoria, Illinois
Anyway you look at it, Apple has a very limited market place new or old. They have their apple loyalists beyond that, it's not that big of deal. The biggest problem with ANY Apple product is it being too propriatary and over priced. Honestly, since Steve Jobs has stepped away from Apple, I predict a decline in Apple. In fact the stock has dropped sharply as of today.
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Henry Robinson · Dartmouth
Why do the opiners who own iPhones seem like such tools? If the iPhone works for you, great. Don't take it so personally when a single fact comes out that contradicts the view that the iPhone is like the totally awesomest phone ever. Unfortunately, it doesn't work for everyone, so there are choices. This is how capitalism works.
Android OS outsold IOS over the lat 3 months. It's a fact that has no impact on my life whatsoever. There is no agenda here. No one is stating or implying that you are any less of a human being because you bought an iPhone or an Android or a Motorola Brick. iOS could outsell Android 10 to 1 when the iPhone 5 comes out. Unless you invest/work for Apple or Google, how does that potential fact improve any aspect of your life or self worth?
Reply · 5 · · September 26 at 2:19pm
Brian Flores · Top Commenter · Gonzaga
So why bother to comment?
Reply · 1 · · September 27 at 1:35am
Henry Robinson · Dartmouth
Ditto
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Brian Flores · Top Commenter · Gonzaga
Henry Robinson Why single out iPhone users? I see plenty of ludicrously preening Android jackassery on here. I buy what works for me.
Reply · · 24 minutes ago
Nazmul H. Palash
♥ Android
Reply · 5 · · September 26 at 10:24am
Bob Capodieci · Franklin Instutute of Technology
Me 2 towel head.
Reply · · September 26 at 3:35pm
Bob Capodieci · Franklin Instutute of Technology
Had blackberry. Android has more Alps that I use. Free
Reply · 1 · · September 26 at 3:37pm
Marilyn Hedtke
Bob Capodieci : Android has mountains?
Reply · 1 · · September 27 at 8:01am
Thao Tran · Rosenberg, Texas
You iPhone yahoos at TC are hilarious. The statistic is about the distribution of mobile OS to the marketplace! It's no one's fault except Apples that they monopolize their OS. Because of this, Apple will never have the dominant OS in any platform. This is worth noting.
Reply · 4 · · September 26 at 12:36pm
Mark Harrison · Hofstra University
"Apple will never have the dominant OS in any platform".......Tablets?
Reply · 2 · · September 26 at 5:07pm
Brian Maloney · Waterloo
Dominant in mobile profits is a position I wouldn't mind having.
Reply · · September 26 at 7:17pm
David Griffith Jones · Warwick
Brian Maloney but it sucks if you're a consumer buying their devices
Reply · · September 27 at 3:08am
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Rasmus Hansson
I'd like to comment on the iPhone vs Android battlers here.
It's simply a matter of egoistic perception of quality.
1. iPhone appeal to consumers who will pay a premium for extremely polished, design and with a minimal, intuitive feature set.
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Reply · 3 · · September 26 at 8:21pm
James Pakele · Top Commenter · Waianae High School
"comes with a low price tag."
I paid the same amount of money for my Atrix as I did for my iPhone4...
Maybe Android users just like devices that can be used to realize its full potential, not something handicapped for, well... no apparent reason...
Reply · 1 · · September 26 at 11:02pm
Brian Flores · Top Commenter · Gonzaga
James Pakele And what you term "handicapped" others call "easy to use". This is the same tired argument I've seen from: a) Linux users who've been calling the OS ready for prime time for, oh, about 15 years now, and the Pocket PC & Windows Mobile gearheads who'd spend months customizing their phone just so, only to upgrade when the next bright & shiny new toy came out.
Reply · 1 · · September 27 at 1:40am
Lavan Param
Android beats Iphone is quality hands down, for about any Motorola,Samsung or HTC device made in the past 1 year. One single knock to the side of the Iphone and it is gone (speaking from experience). Open standards ? If you are unaware every knew android phone released outclasses the Iphone except the lowest class of androids probably 1-4 cheap phones per season. If we are talking about mid-high end android devices, then its a complete walkover. You being a developer must realise that Android is far more friendly towards its developers than Apple and the flexibility you mention about android is not at all flexibility. It is just the mass amount if things Android can do which apple can't, lets face it Linux vs ISO, its a pretty clear win.
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MightyText
9% Blackberry still out there, wondering if/when that goes away, given their stronghold in the corporate market. What are people seing in workplaces? Are Blackberries going away and being replaced by iPhone/Android as "approved" corporate devices?
Reply · 3 · · September 26 at 2:10pm
Jay Scott · WTAS
We see about 50% on iphone, 50% blackberry but as blackberry contracts expire most of them are going for iphones. We won't allow android until it's encryptable.
Reply · 2 · · September 26 at 2:13pm
John Drefahl · New York University
Well with openVPN available for Android.. it should make things a whole lot smoother.
Reply · · September 28 at 4:31pm
Andrew Wood
For the last time I'll try to explain this...
Android outsells iPhone because it has a bajillion phones on every carrier including ones the iPhone isn't on. Also, you're comparing an OS to a PHONE!
Reply · 3 · · September 26 at 10:53am
Ser Cov · Top Commenter
ok compare iOs to Android
Reply · · September 26 at 11:15am
Donnacha Mac Gloinn · Top Commenter · Owner at WordSkill.com
Sure ... do we get to include all the iPods running iOS?
Reply · 1 · · September 26 at 11:22am
Iñaki Rodriguez
@Andrew Wood "Also, you're comparing an OS to a PHONE!"
No, they're comparing smartphones with an OS (Android) with smartphones with an OS (iPhone)
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Christopher M. Young · Rockford, Illinois
Windows 7 phones just aren't selling. Come to think of it, I can't even think of anyone I know that owns a W7 phone. As for current Android devices...I'm sure many people are waiting for the next big wave of upgraded Android devices to roll out. With the Galaxy SII heading to the US ( it's already sold over 10 million overseas in a couple of months), combined with the next Nexus, I'm sure Android will hold it's market share - if not expand.
Reply · 2 · · September 26 at 10:25am
Abelardo Duarte Rey · Universidad de los Andes
Problem for msft in Latin America is even worse, I don´t think that the 3 major carriers over here even sell a single Windows 7 phone model yet. Blackberry, Apple and Androids are everywhere though.
Reply · 1 · · September 26 at 12:37pm
Joshua W Hays · Marketing Director at Car People Marketing, Inc.
It really stinks because I actually really like WP7, it has a lot of promise but it's just being over shadowed by iOS and Android. Such a shame.
Reply · 2 · · September 26 at 1:18pm
Joshua W Hays · Marketing Director at Car People Marketing, Inc.
oh and PS - these articles are so misinformed. Of course Android saw twice as many buyers, the OS is on four times as many devices. The iPhone itself outsold any one Android powered device. OS to OS, Android wins. Device to device, Apple wins. Just the facts...
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Dirk de Kok · CEO/Founder at Mobtest
and let's not forget return rate for Android phones is 30-40% : http://techcrunch.com/2011/07/26/androids-dirty-secret-shipping-numbers-are-strong-but-returns-are-30-40/.
Still, I would love more competition on the high end for iPhone, UX on Android is still not there, as well as willingness to pay for apps. Work to do for HTC and others!
Reply · 1 · · September 26 at 10:25am
Iñaki Rodriguez
Still using that false report without any source or any manufacturer?
Reply · 5 · · September 26 at 10:41am
Tom Yu · The University of Texas at Austin
We should forget the return rate is 30-40% since your link has no credible sources to back up the data, nor could I find anything on google.
Reply · 2 · · September 26 at 10:46am
Michael Hussey · New York, New York
The second best UX is Windows Phone 7.
Reply · 1 · · September 26 at 2:43pm
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Deepak Nayal · London, United Kingdom
Not surprising, considering iPhone is just Apple and Android is almost the rest of the world now. I think the most interesting point to note here is that we are now witnessing consolidation of mobile platforms. Android and iOS together cover ~85% of the market!
Deepak
http://www.olsup.com
Reply · 1 · · September 26 at 2:51pm
George Tinari · Top Commenter · Notre Dame High School
"Of course, these stats really should have a little asterisk tucked somewhere inside. The iPhone is one phone (or two, counting the 3GS), by one manufacturer."
Thank you for pointing this out. I clicked on this article expecting that I'd have to point it out.
Reply · 1 · · September 26 at 10:08am
Tim Georgi · Art Director at American Name Services
Even with that in there, you still have to explain it. Too many people just look at the graph and don't read the article. I pointed this out to a group of iPhone haters on G+ and they apparently couldn't get that fact, despite the fact that the author of the article mentioned it.
Reply · 1 · · September 26 at 4:48pm
George Tinari · Top Commenter · Notre Dame High School
Tim Georgi Ugh. People.
Reply · · September 26 at 4:50pm
Joe Tweets · Top Commenter · Redmond, Washington
I searched and searched for mention of which country this report was describing, to no avail. As I suspected, however, the report was on the US market. Misleading headline much?
Reply · 1 · · September 26 at 6:28pm
Kody Scalzi · McKinney North High School
Google has 95% of the mobile search market and Apple has 70% of the sales in apps, music, etc.
I think they're both pretty happy.
Reply · 1 · · September 26 at 12:06pm
Srinivas Muddana · Framingham, Massachusetts
I feel uneasy when things don't add up to 100%,
ps: I understand that these numbers are rounded to nearest integers!
Reply · 1 · · September 26 at 10:44am
Michael Selvidge · San Francisco, California
GREG UR SO STUPID! THE IPHONE IS ONLY 1 PHONE!
LOL YOU ARE WORSE THAN HITLER LOL.
Reply · 1 · · September 26 at 2:55pm
Volker Hirsch
Michael, you're out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
Reply · · September 26 at 4:55pm
Michael Selvidge · San Francisco, California
Volker Hirsch - I thought the double LOL and all caps would be enough to show that I was being sarcastic
Reply · · September 26 at 7:48pm
Rj Bell · CEO & Founder at Pregame.com
Seems like the iPhone people still love their phone more.
Reply · 1 · · September 26 at 10:53am
Loy Cletcher III · Peoria, Illinois
There is always a small market of people who will buy an iphone no matter if it's the best phone or not. The Droid Bionic is the best phone on the market currently from what I have seen.
Reply · · September 26 at 12:06pm
Johan Du Toit · Top Commenter · Graphic Designer at Crackerjack Advertising & Design
Loy Cletcher III Blablabla. There is always a small market of people who will buy a Droid Bionic no matter if it's the best phone or not. The iPhone is the best phone on the market currently from what I have seen......
Difference is, I have facts to back this statement up:
http://gigaom.com/apple/iphone-owners-very-loyal-blackberry-not-so-much/
Specifically, note the RETENTION RATES.
Reply · 2 · · September 26 at 12:43pm
Ervin Carter · Tax Associate at Professional Accounting & Manangement
Loy Cletcher III
and the dark glasses..... oh your blind...you haven't seen any phones...
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Aditya Anupkumar · Saatchi & Saatchi
That's mostly cheap phones. Android will replace Nokia at the commoditized lower end. Doesn't say much for Android, and not the best position to be in for anyone in business.
I am looking forward however, to seeing what they do with Motorola now, and how they handle Samsung and HTC in all of that.
Reply · · September 26 at 11:52am
I Hate MMORPGs
Ignorant drones will always buy iCrap because it is a status symbol to pay too much for inferior hardware. In wake the closing of Palm, I'm shocked that Windows phones aren't doing better...
Reply · · September 26 at 12:05pm
Paul Baker
Yeah - Apple and their iCrap both suck...that's how they surpassed ExxonMobile as the most valuable company in the world. lol
Reply · 1 · · September 26 at 1:44pm
I Hate MMORPGs
Paul Baker Nope, they did that by suing competitors and falsifying evidence.
Reply · 2 · · September 26 at 2:10pm
Tim Shundo · UI/2D Artist at Ngmoco
^ lol this guy...
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