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Mass Effect 3: Citadel DLC Review
JawthVader.
I never got the hate for the ending (though I agree it was pretty stupid). I think it might have been that I played all three games for the first time back to back, so I didn't have time to replay the games in between the releases or grow attached to the characters the way a lot of fans did. As for the indoctrination theory, did Bioware or EA ever say anything about it one way or the other? I have a friend convinced it's the real ending and a brother who completely dismisses it.

ChrisCarTheMarauder.
Oh for the love of god, jump off of the high horse and quit mimicking Moriarty. Fucking apologists...

DownloaderBizz.
please dont be silly. You cant tell if something is trash? thats your problem. I suggest revisiting 5th grade comprehension.

Rammur65.
Even in war irl our servicemen will party on their off time low morale will kill a soldier faster than a gunfight i was military and in araq we had to have our fun times even in a combat zone. Lol.

nicksmi56.
The indoctrination theory was garbage anyway. "LOL it was a dream! We don't HAVE an ending!"

TheCynicalGamer.
It boggles my mind, too.

E10phoenix.
Ahh go away you boring person. Nobody cares anymore, not every ending is perfect, end of story.

Scubasteve117.
that was just dumb

infamousjam315.
"The battle cry of a generation"

darodabeast.
Farewell Shepard. It was a good ride.

plime97.
... And with better DLC than most. Generally, I absolutely hate DLC. But this one actually looks alright!

Buckeyes67890.
They even make a joke about the elevators in ME1. I get teary eyed when I look at the picture of all my squadmates.

darodabeast.
It is sad to see after 6 long years my tine with Shepard has finally come to a close.

bbr1394.
I know a lot of has been said about this series already, but I feel that lately most of it has focused on the negative side of things. I refuse to let 15 minutes dismay the emotions I felt throughout an experience that lasted over 5 years and 3 games. Bioware gave me (and the rest of the world) one of the most well-made, expansive, diverse, and fascinating universes not just in gaming or sci-fi in general, but in any genre of any storytelling medium that exists. I want to thank Bioware for the irreplaceable memories they've given me, and I want to thank them for making me become a part of a universe so believable, I feel I like know all of these fictional characters intimately as if they were a part of my family. No matter what happens next, for both Bioware and the Mass Effect franchise, I'll be there. Thank you, Biowareâ€”and goodbye to the Shepard and his buddies. :)

Corpsehatch.
I had such an amazing experience going from beginning to end with Mass Effect. After seeing the Mass Effect 1 trailer and learning it was a continuous trilogy, I realized there would something special about these games. It would to see EA release a version that merges all the games into a single game on it's 10th Anniversary . *ALL* DLC, perhaps an additional mission at the start of ME2 that leads into the attack of the Normandy. Mass Effect is one of the best gaming experiences I've had in 25 years of gaming.

bbr1394.
That sounds great. On another note, I'm glad ME has had such a profound effect on you. That same can be said for me. Mass Effect blew me away. There won't be many franchises that ever come close to its quality.

Reaver72.
I have to agree. Even with the admittedly polarizing and unsatisfying ending, Mass Effect is the defining series of this generation. I feel bad for the people who let the last ten/fifteen minutes ruin what was an otherwise masterpiece of a series.

bbr1394.
Amen.

DTreats.
It was great story, except the ending, which undermined the replayability and level of detail. If it was just a linear trilogy, it probably wouldn't have been as bad.

bbr1394.
I understand that, and, even coming from someone who didn't love nor hate the ending, I acknowledge the fact that the ending hurt the replayibility of the series because the destination will always be the same no matter what. Regardless of that, I still replay the series as much as possible, even if it is at a more...slower pace than usual.

DTreats.
I won't be replaying it at all, but I still love the universe.

bbr1394.
Fair enough.

Hexley_UK.
Yea problem is those 15 minutes are the grand finale, the cumination of all that came before it.....and its horrendous shite. ME3 is doomed to be remembered as the epic game that blew it at the finishing line and all because "Artistic Integrity" which means copying the end of Deus Ex into a game where it does not belong apparently.

bbr1394.
By that rationale, Lost, The Sopranos, and Battlestsr Galactica should stop being praised because of their weak endings. The ending to any story, especially one that so overarching, is very important. However, the ending does not define the journey. Our end in life will be met with death. That ending sucks, but that does not define what happened in our lives. Point is...as important as an ending may be, it's nearly impossible to dennounce an entire series simply because the end destination was disappointing.

santiag0.
It was a great piece of DLC. The main mission is very fun and it's a joy to play from start to finish. It's like on of those episodes on a TV show that takes a break from the main action to tell a different tale with a different tone. It has also a lot of fan service and even though I'd spent those resources with other things, I guess a lot of people loved it. It doesn't fix the problens I had with ME3, but at least it slightly patches some of them. Overall, it's definitely worth it.

Legionaryprime.
IGN should have mentioned that this was the last acting work of Robin Sachs, who died last month and is the voice of Zaeed Massani. Rest in peace: Robin Sachs.

Waco_Kid.
Holy Shit! Zaeed is Ethan Rayne. I never knew that. Thank you.

OLDNorton.
Good Bye Shepard commander-

Guest.
Meanwhile; The reapers continue to cause mass extermination of all living beings in the galaxy.

Thribs.
The Reapers take a break as well during this.

Andodalf.
... They went to Vegas?

ATotalParade.
As the Reapers say, "What happens in Vega-s, stays in Vega-s"

BrokenNoah.
Good one :)

twogun08.
Any Mass Effect fan should get this DLC. This article did this DLC justice. Even if you hated the ending or normally dont play through Mass Effects DLC, pick this one up. I had a stupid grin on my face for the entire thing and the jokes are the best

johngie.
How is being far from ME3's tone a bad things, when it seems like that's the most praised aspect in the review?

bane_chain.
I don't know. I was so turned off by the real ending that I haven't been able to touch the dlc :/

Mtoshigi.
My real ending:

ContinentTurtle.
I hated the way Liara was so... cold. I always go for Tali. I love that quarian.

Thatoneguy335.
I'll have to run through with Tali as the love interest, I personally really liked the Liara romance though.

Waco_Kid.
the scene when you leave the tank on Rannoch if you romanced Tali is awesome.

bbr1394.
It's your loss, then, because most of the DLC for ME3 has been good, for the most part. This DLC, in particular, is a perfect send-off to the trilogy and anyâ€”and everyâ€”fan of the series should experience it, regardless of how they feel about the ending.

MARI0Mound.
Same...But hopefully they release a GOTY edition with all the DLCs then i'd probably consider it.

NintendoDreamcastU.
Hey, at least you're able to touch the DLC, poor Nintentards can't even download this on their Wii u...

kirnn.
Nintendards really? :/ can't we all just get along?

ShamanRyu.
Idealism doesn't make it easier to get along with others.

ZEMANATOR.
Would you enjoy some meat? I have steak.

smashU.
You clearly have an OCD problem with your hate for Wii U. I suggest maybe talking to your parents or guardian about seeking help. It is not healthy to have so much hate for a electronic device so see a doctor ASAP.

Thribs.
It will come eventually.

NintendoDreamcastU.
Keyword, eventually... (never)

wii-beat-ps3-jackass.
Keyword, troll...(NintendoDreamASSu)

ZEMANATOR.
I think you have a case of the NOT RESPONDING SYNDROME. The only way to cure it is by responding.

ZEMANATOR.
Are you the mean man or what?

ZEMANATOR.
I suggest you eat some Wii U. Maybe it will cure your obsession with it.

ZEMANATOR.
RESPOND TO ME. I COMMAND YOU.

ZEMANATOR.
Could I have a hug?

ZEMANATOR.
My name is Weezer Boy. I am immortal.

ZEMANATOR.
Why are you still on IGN?

ZEMANATOR.
How does your finger smell? Mine smells like kittens and rainbows.

ZEMANATOR.
Why is my mom eating my fish?

ZEMANATOR.
What's for dinner?

ZEMANATOR.
Are you having fun?

ZEMANATOR.
How are you?

ZEMANATOR.
Would you like pie?

ZEMANATOR.
I downvote all of your comments.

ZEMANATOR.
You should respond.

ZEMANATOR.
What's your favorite game?

ZEMANATOR.
I am secretly Asian.

Newfie360.
Hows that a secret? Do you wear a mask like a crime fighter?

Thribs.
The ending is fine. What did you want for it?

DTreats.
No deus ex machina that's for sure.

ATotalParade.
There wasn't deus ex machina involved in there at all! What are you smoking?! ^-^

El_Wray88.
Something didn't show up at the end of the final act to offer our protagonist a way out of his doomed predicament?

ATotalParade.
(sarcasm)

El_Wray88.
(I feel like a fool)

ATotalParade.
(nah it's all good)

kylarisajedi.
I have forsaken all things EA, Bioware included. So I could care less about this DLC. Mass Effect is dead to me.

ContinentTurtle.
EA is bad, Bioware isn't. Bioware should be bought by another company that doesn't completely screw everyone over, but EA'll never allow it.

DTreats.
I know that's right. Once I beat the first playthrough (out of 4) I only played one more time on the hardest difficulty for the achievements. Then I sold it right after that.

Christ4short.
yep.

ReignOfEvil666.
I hope the make a ME3 Complete Edition, because I would buy the game again if they did.

Thribs.
They will but you will still need to download them like the GOY edition of ME2.

Lvl_6_Squirtle.
The reason Mass Effect 2 holds as one of my favorite games is because of the characters. The main focus weren't set pieces and heavy combat, but character dialogue. I wish ME3 was much like 2.

nextjosz.
Agreed, the character dialogue was the highlight for ME2. My problem was that almost all of those conversations were just monologues you had on the ship. It may as well have been a series of a short stories.

Waco_Kid.
This seriously may have been the best piece of dlc I've ever played, because it focused on having fun. This was a love letter from Bioware to the characters they had created and the fans that had gotten to know them. I laughed, I cried (manly tears), I shot things, it was great. Thank you Bioware for one last adventure with Shepard and the crew of the Normandy, and thank you for all the adventures that came before.

Noah37x.
Well, it seems like I will have to pull out my dusty old copy of ME3 one last time to say goodbye. Sure, I didn't play the third game nearly as much, and may have not enjoyed it like I did the first two. But it is still an incredible Sci-Fi trilogy, and this kind of send-off sounds appropriate.

Thatoneguy335.
I had heard that the ending was bad before I finally got around to playing through the last game, but I still wasn't prepared for how absolutely soul crushing it was. As the writer of this review said, these characters are more than pixels at this point. I adore these characters and this universe and that ending just... GOD DAMMIT. So yeah, I'll buy this for sure.

Greed343.
What amazed me, was how well Javik got along with the krogans. Especially him and wrex. They made a great combo in combat, and were hilarious at the party.

Waco_Kid.
Javik is just plain awesome at the party. When I found him crouched behind a couch with a pistol out and empty beer bottles lined up on the bar I almost died laughing.

ATotalParade.
Farewell, Commander Shepard, it was a blast to experience, from start to finish.

kirnn.
This is a really awesome piece of DLC, it was really good to get my old team of wrex and garrus back with me. Then its got more one liners than a buddy cop movie.

mtr6561.
I personally want to thank everyone at Bioware and EA for the amazing journey and galaxy they created for the millions of us. I know people will continue to rail on the ending, but i still love it. There are some of us that do. And regardless of what you think about the last 10 minutes, the hundreds of hours you could experience before that make it the greatest gaming experience of this generation. We've made friends with amazing characters, we've gotten to feel heroism and heartbreak, we've gotten to carve our own paths, we've gotten to be kind saviors and ultimate bad-asses. Shepard became more than a character, he/she became us, because we got to make the choices. I'd ask fellow fans to forgive Bioware for the ending and quit taking every instance to bash the entire trilogy, and instead respect it for the amazing emotional and entertainment investment it became for so many people across the world. In the biggest compliment possible, I think Mass Effect as a whole will join Final Fantasy 7 as the definitive video game experience for many. And in that since, Shepard and crew will join the joyous ranks of trios like Harry, Ron, and Hermoine, Luke, Han, and Leia, Frodo, Sam, and Gandalf, and Cloud, Tifa, and Barret. So now, one year after the end, now that Citadel is finished, and we are left with the touching image of the crew looking out a docking window at the Normandy, thank you to the teams that created this, thanks for the news for its coverage, thanks to the fellow fans who blogged, debated, made artwork, played multiplayer, and just joined the adventure. It was one hell of a ride, and I'll savor it as an amazing narrative that let me be a legend. It was, as a game and a cultural event, as Shepard said, "The best."

Waco_Kid.
here here!

MidWestCoastin.
This part stuck with me from IGN's review and how it will likely always stick with me. This will always be likely my favorite series of all time. Everything about ME grabs me. "It's a real shame that Mass Effect's legacy feels doomed to be That Ending, when this DLC far more appropriately sums up why the series meant so much to so many." *Sigh*. So true. Thanks for the laughs, the entertainment, and the all mighty anger at the end. That's the worst part about it is to leave with the worst taste in your mouth. The worst taste shouldn't come at the end ever for anything.

Brunwulf_Ov_Woden.
I don't see what the real problem is that people have with the ending of ME3. As in real life the resolution of any war can only usually reach a resolution through some kind of sacrifice, for that reason alone i commend the writers for not going with a Hollywood ending and instead forcing the player to make a difficult choice, yes it kind of goes against the nature of the series' choice mechanic but only because people were forced to choose an ending they didn't want to choose. Someone had to be sacrificed, throwing up the question, does one man really ever have the right to decide the fate of another, even an entire species or existence as we know it? People don't want to ask the question, never mind answer it, that's why people disliked it. I remember how long I sat trying to decide what to do. One of the hardest choices i have ever had to make in a game. The only gripe i have is that !!!**SPOILERS**!!! Shephard should either die in ALL of the endings or survive in ALL of the endings. Not leaving his fate unknown. Then again maybe that in their minds just adds to his legend. No doubt in ME4 (or whatever it will be called) there will be easter eggs relating to stories of Shepard, reports of him being seen, etc... The Elvis syndrome. Did the legend die or simply want to fade into history, seeing out his days, at peace now the war against the Reapers is over.

spankovision.
there are so many unanswered questions. THAT's why people hate the endings. it also felt like they threw it together in a couple days. it's pathetic and lazy. EC helped, but it's still garbage.

Brunwulf_Ov_Woden.
The writers simply just left in open for people to interpret the ending in their own minds. The same way that a lot of great books and a lot of great movies do/did. Gamers will discussing the merit of many theories and ideas for years to come. If they had just answered every question then the legend of Shepard would have died and faded into obscurity. It seems to be a problem endemic to people nowadays, in this age of technology where everything can be found out and every question can be answered, no one likes to wonder. They want Hollywood endings all wrapped up in a nice little bow. I don't without wondering we wouldn't have some of the great fictional works and fictional universes we have today.

El_Wray88.
No one likes that much freedom in their endings. Inception, that was a great ending that is ambiguous. In Bruges has a good ending that is left ambiguous, don't give me this ME3 has a good ending crap, Extended Cut or no. It is literally one of the worst endings I have ever seen, if not the worst. Not even No Country for Old Men pissed me off as much as this and I hate how people think the rest of the game was perfect too because it wasn't. It was by far the worst Mass Effect game of the three and just shittily put together and insulting. It's even more insulting that people defend this garbage. Sorry, I apologize for being so venomous and I actually do find some solace in the fact that someone can enjoy this. But I never will. Sorry once again, I'm just bitter because I can't enjoy this.

Brunwulf_Ov_Woden.
Hey it's no problem, passion is good and i respect what your saying. I wouldn't say that i thought the ending was great or that it was terrible but it was ok and probably the only way the writers could end it after the corner they had to some degree written themselves into. But like i said to someone else earlier, i only played through each game once and as such i had a different experience to everyone else here as did everyone else from one another. With that in mind, what people should think about is that not everyone has the same experience/story playing through the ME trilogy, so why should everyone get the exact same answers. Letting people choose to believe and theorise about the end was the probably the most ME thing they could have done.

El_Wray88.
Once again, my problem isn't just with the ending. It is with the entire game itself. The ending is obviously the part I have the biggest problem but I have issues with nearly everything. But thanks for keeping it civil, even when I kind of lost my cool.

Brunwulf_Ov_Woden.
No problem man, everyone is entitled to their opinion. I think i wasn't so fussed because i'm not a huge fan of the games. i really like them and thought they were great games but i wasn't as emotionally invested in the games as some people. I can see how some people may have felt a let down by 3 after the build up of one and two, but in all honesty i was happy with the quality of the series throughout. 3 was still a good game, not as good as the first two but what series out there can you say has kept that kind of quality up throughout a trilogy or more, not many. God of War, Uncharted, Resistance most other high profile game series suffers from tiredness, loss of direction and poor writing at some point. Mass Effect has faired better than most when you look at how tired games like Gears, Halo, Tomb Raider, Devil May Cry, Assassin's Creed and others have felt by their 3rd or 4th entries. Mass Effect 3 at least still had people invested and caring so much that by the end of 3rd game that is got that kind of reaction, anything that can be so divisive and cause such a divide in opinion can surely only be considered some kind of a success even if you don't necessarily agree with it. I don't understand how people can "hate" ME3 when it is by no means a bad game and there are so many worse out there that get love from fans.

JawthVader.
I never got the hate for the ending (though I agree it was pretty stupid). I think it might have been that I played all three games for the first time back to back, so I didn't have time to replay the games in between the releases or grow attached to the characters the way a lot of fans did. As for the indoctrination theory, did Bioware or EA ever say anything about it one way or the other? I have a friend convinced it's the real ending and a brother who completely dismisses it.

ChrisCarTheMarauder.
Oh for the love of god, jump off of the high horse and quit mimicking Moriarty. Fucking apologists...

DownloaderBizz.
please dont be silly. You cant tell if something is trash? thats your problem. I suggest revisiting 5th grade comprehension.

nicksmi56.
The indoctrination theory was garbage anyway. "LOL it was a dream! We don't HAVE an ending!"

TheCynicalGamer.
It boggles my mind, too.

E10phoenix.
Ahh go away you boring person. Nobody cares anymore, not every ending is perfect, end of story.

Scubasteve117.
that was just dumb

infamousjam315.
"The battle cry of a generation"

darodabeast.
Farewell Shepard. It was a good ride.

plime97.
... And with better DLC than most. Generally, I absolutely hate DLC. But this one actually looks alright!

Buckeyes67890.
They even make a joke about the elevators in ME1. I get teary eyed when I look at the picture of all my squadmates.

darodabeast.
It is sad to see after 6 long years my tine with Shepard has finally come to a close.

bbr1394.
Amen.

DTreats.
It was great story, except the ending, which undermined the replayability and level of detail. If it was just a linear trilogy, it probably wouldn't have been as bad.

DTreats.
I won't be replaying it at all, but I still love the universe.

bbr1394.
Fair enough.

Legionaryprime.
IGN should have mentioned that this was the last acting work of Robin Sachs, who died last month and is the voice of Zaeed Massani. Rest in peace: Robin Sachs.

Waco_Kid.
Holy Shit! Zaeed is Ethan Rayne. I never knew that. Thank you.

OLDNorton.
Good Bye Shepard commander-

Guest.
Meanwhile; The reapers continue to cause mass extermination of all living beings in the galaxy.

Thribs.
The Reapers take a break as well during this.

Andodalf.
... They went to Vegas?

ATotalParade.
As the Reapers say, "What happens in Vega-s, stays in Vega-s"

BrokenNoah.
Good one :)

johngie.
How is being far from ME3's tone a bad things, when it seems like that's the most praised aspect in the review?

bane_chain.
I don't know. I was so turned off by the real ending that I haven't been able to touch the dlc :/

Mtoshigi.
My real ending:

ContinentTurtle.
I hated the way Liara was so... cold. I always go for Tali. I love that quarian.

Thatoneguy335.
I'll have to run through with Tali as the love interest, I personally really liked the Liara romance though.

Waco_Kid.
the scene when you leave the tank on Rannoch if you romanced Tali is awesome.

MARI0Mound.
Same...But hopefully they release a GOTY edition with all the DLCs then i'd probably consider it.

NintendoDreamcastU.
Hey, at least you're able to touch the DLC, poor Nintentards can't even download this on their Wii u...

kirnn.
Nintendards really? :/ can't we all just get along?

ShamanRyu.
Idealism doesn't make it easier to get along with others.

ZEMANATOR.
Would you enjoy some meat? I have steak.

Thribs.
It will come eventually.

NintendoDreamcastU.
Keyword, eventually... (never)

wii-beat-ps3-jackass.
Keyword, troll...(NintendoDreamASSu)

ZEMANATOR.
I think you have a case of the NOT RESPONDING SYNDROME. The only way to cure it is by responding.

ZEMANATOR.
Are you the mean man or what?

ZEMANATOR.
I suggest you eat some Wii U. Maybe it will cure your obsession with it.

ZEMANATOR.
RESPOND TO ME. I COMMAND YOU.

ZEMANATOR.
Could I have a hug?

ZEMANATOR.
My name is Weezer Boy. I am immortal.

ZEMANATOR.
Why are you still on IGN?

ZEMANATOR.
How does your finger smell? Mine smells like kittens and rainbows.

ZEMANATOR.
Why is my mom eating my fish?

ZEMANATOR.
What's for dinner?

ZEMANATOR.
Are you having fun?

ZEMANATOR.
How are you?

ZEMANATOR.
Would you like pie?

ZEMANATOR.
I downvote all of your comments.

ZEMANATOR.
You should respond.

ZEMANATOR.
What's your favorite game?

ZEMANATOR.
I am secretly Asian.

Newfie360.
Hows that a secret? Do you wear a mask like a crime fighter?

Thribs.
The ending is fine. What did you want for it?

DTreats.
No deus ex machina that's for sure.

ATotalParade.
There wasn't deus ex machina involved in there at all! What are you smoking?! ^-^

El_Wray88.
Something didn't show up at the end of the final act to offer our protagonist a way out of his doomed predicament?

ATotalParade.
(sarcasm)

El_Wray88.
(I feel like a fool)

ATotalParade.
(nah it's all good)

kylarisajedi.
I have forsaken all things EA, Bioware included. So I could care less about this DLC. Mass Effect is dead to me.

ContinentTurtle.
EA is bad, Bioware isn't. Bioware should be bought by another company that doesn't completely screw everyone over, but EA'll never allow it.

DTreats.
I know that's right. Once I beat the first playthrough (out of 4) I only played one more time on the hardest difficulty for the achievements. Then I sold it right after that.

Christ4short.
yep.

ReignOfEvil666.
I hope the make a ME3 Complete Edition, because I would buy the game again if they did.

Thribs.
They will but you will still need to download them like the GOY edition of ME2.

Greed343.
What amazed me, was how well Javik got along with the krogans. Especially him and wrex. They made a great combo in combat, and were hilarious at the party.

Waco_Kid.
Javik is just plain awesome at the party. When I found him crouched behind a couch with a pistol out and empty beer bottles lined up on the bar I almost died laughing.

ATotalParade.
Farewell, Commander Shepard, it was a blast to experience, from start to finish.

kirnn.
This is a really awesome piece of DLC, it was really good to get my old team of wrex and garrus back with me. Then its got more one liners than a buddy cop movie.

Waco_Kid.
here here!

El_Wray88.
Resistance 3 was actually the best of them all so I wouldn't say that series got tired at all. While ME3 isn't a bad game like Duke Nukem Forever is a bad game. It doesn't deserve the praise it gets. There are a lot of issues throughout it and I would argue that it fails the hardest of all the series you mentioned when it mattered most.

Brunwulf_Ov_Woden.
Yeah i would probably agree with that and what i meant was that GoW, UC and Resistance are the exception to rule. They are all great games, although Ascension seems to be getting to that point of tiredness.

gchris6784.
They also seemed to copy some other endings too. The Stargazer scene is just like The Matrix Revelations, where the Oracle is talking to the little girl in the Park.

SirSpillsALot.
WHY do people continue to think that the problem people have with the ending is that it's sad and/or that Shepherd dies? That's not the problem at all. They could have made an epic set of endings where Shepherd dies in all of them. But they didn't. The problem is that the ending is pure nonsense and is out of character in every way from the preceding 100 hours of the trilogy.

Brunwulf_Ov_Woden.
What wasn't actually the point i was making at all if you re-read the whole comment. I think it is also a bit strange of you to say it is out character when it is the player that effectively defines how the story unfolds throughout in terms of the choices you make. The player helps define the experience. Out of interest how would have ended the game?

SirSpillsALot.
Ret-con out the star child. He's unnecessary and almost all the major problems with the ending are tied up with him. Then create endings that meaningfully reflect on your choices throughout the trilogy (rather than endings which only reflect an out-of-nowhere and nonsensical choice thrown at the player in the last 2 minutes). Not hard to fix the endings at all. And Bioware could still have as much artistic license as they want with the ending - in fact, they could have more since they wouldn't be hamstrung by red/green/blue. You hit the nail on the head... ME3 is a series defined to a large degree by player choice. The ending Bioware chose to include completely ignores and neglects 100 hours of choices by the player and substitutes an artificial, meaningless one in the last 5 minutes of the game.

mazariamonti.
The ending is bad because it is poorly written, not because there is a "difficult choice" where shepard dies. For one thing, you don't, under any circumstances, introduce a new character that actively effects the story in the last five minutes, ever. You especially should not make this character a godlike being, it's ridiculously cliche. More importantly, you don't change the main conflict in the last five minutes of a story, the conflict goes from "galaxy vs. reapers" to "solve this weird metaphysical tension between organics and synthetics" that you didn't even know existed until the last five minutes. The ending choices themselves make absolutely no sense whatsoever. The Catalyst apparently feels that his solution isn't working anymore, yet in one ending he decides to go through with it anyway for seemingly no reason at all (refusal ending). He apparently controls the reapers, yet instead of simply telling them to go away, which is the easiest and most logical solution, he offers you the choice to destroy them. Which doesn't solve his perceived problem of "advanced organics making synthetics that kill all organics", since it doesn't prevent organics from making synthetics later. Why does he give control of the reapers to Shepard in the control ending? Why would he do that? The idea is that Shepard will simply keep the reapers from doing any more harm, but if shepard as the catalyst would be able to do that, why doesn't the original catalyst perform that task? it makes no sense. And still doesn't solve this perceived problem. Synthesis, besides being physically impossible (yes even in any sci fi universe you want to mention, the idea is simply impossible and completely ridiculous), they don't completely mention what exactly synthesis does in a practical sense. Just that it will solve this perceived problem, somehow. Even though logically speaking there is absolutely no reason at all to believe these synthesized people will not make synthetics later. No reason whatsoever. So you rape everyone in the galaxy for no real reason. Basically performing the basic function that you've been told was bad since the beginning in mass effect one, it's bad storytelling, it's a dumb idea, and easily the worst ending as far as making sense goes. It was just mac walters wanting to be all deep and thought provoking and stuff. And this is just stuff that i thought up on the top of my head during the five or ten minutes it took me to write this. Looking at it deeper i have found many more problems with it (as have a lot of people). Did it ruin the series for me? No, ME3 as a whole did that.

Trajen_Legatus.
(I say in a sarcastic tone) Congratulations you have successfully just missed the whole point of all 3 of these games. The main conflict was always between organics and synthetics. The freedom of organics vs the uncompromising mathematical approach of synthetics. Galaxy vs reapers, the galaxy made up of mostly organics against the reapers made up of mostly synthetics. To sum it up, this was a great way for YOU to say I didn't pay attention and I don't know what I'm talking about.

El_Wray88.
Umm no, the tone of all the games was victory through unity, moron. In Mass Effect 1, you'll notice how much racism everyone has towards everyone and the main theme is that Shepard put all of that aside, all of their personal issues (Navigator Pressly anyone?) to defeat the ultimate enemy. Mass Effect 2, he takes this random group of people who should no way be able to work together (Miranda-Jack, Grunt-Mordin, Tali-Legion, Samara-Thane) and shows them how to be a team. They become such a strong knit team that they survive going to a solar system made up of black holes and defeat the Collectors and a reaper embryo. Then, in 3, he is breaking down all the barriers between each culture to get them to work together. He fights to unite Krogan and Salarian, Geth and Quarian, tries to get Rachni involved, tries to help the Biotics and tries to stop a group that pushes human supremacy and bigotry towards other races. Javik tells you that the reason the Protheans lost was because they weren't united. They let themselves be divided and that's why they lost. A guy tells you how he thinks you can beat the game but you end up losing that way if you choose refuse. So yes, there was an organic vs synthetic subplot going throughout the story that mostly pertained to the Geth/Quarian conflict but no, it wasn't the central theme. That was about getting past what makes us different to see the bigger problems and face them together instead of facing them alone. The ending totally took a tonal shift at the end in an unforgivable manner.

mazariamonti.
(I say In a sarcastic tone) Congratulations, you chose to respond to one point I brought up out of about fifteen. To be more clear, the plot was always "us vs. them" the fact that they were synthetics never really mattered. They were strange beings we couldn't understand that wanted to kill us, that was it. The only "organics vs. synthetics" plot is the one involving the geth, which is successfully resolved earlier in the game.

Obss7L.
Personally I thought well in my playthrough anyway that Shepard died and I get that for some the ending itself was lacking but for me at the end I already had a stupid smile on my face from those last talks and interactions with my crew and that's what made me like the ending the fact that this felt like an end like the last conversations my Shepard had meant something.

Sonic10158.
I don't mind the ending. I just hate the stargazer scene

terfdef.
i thought it was an absolutely perfect way to end it :) i couldnt be happier with it.

spankovision.
except it's in the middle of the game and the reapers still win with about a million plotholes, but hey, whatever floats your boat.

Sonic10158.
The reapers only win in the refusal ending

AOPrinciple.
It's true: this DLC doesn't affect the ending in any way. I hate the ending as passionately as anyone else, but I still plan on picking this up after reading several reviews and looking at a lot of footage. It's tempting to take sides and either blackball DLC altogether or go all in, but I'm willing to make an exception in this case and do myself the favor of spending more time with the characters I played alongside in the first two installments.

StrawberryRain.
At this rate, i think we all know Bioware IS capable of making good content, and a good ending. Who knows, maybe its their ego that is not letting them do it? Or EA. I think it would be Best for EVERYONE, if they had DLC for the final act, to add more endings, and a better final act. It can be optional, but give us what we want.

kineticmd.
This is my personal ending to Mass Effect 3. I'll pretend that the Reapers get destroyed in Mass Effect 4.

dctcool1.
If the Mass Effect trilogy were our school days than Citadel DLC would be prom night.

donsteel12.
I hated the way Mass Effect 3 ended, and I make no apologies for that! But, and this is a BIG BUT, I still believe Mass Effect as a series achieved more than ANY GAME before it and maybe some after it. It was story telling done at a level that should be immortalized as much as the Star Wars trilogy (originals of course). It was Sci-fi at its best. But all good things must and should come to an end, Shepard, regardless of how Mass Effect 3 ended, will always be a reminder of the Adventure I went on and the INCREDIBLE characters I met along the way!...Even you Udina!

memulh04.
My impression of Mass Effect "fans" Whine, whine, ending, whine whine. You got three amazing games to play and you bitch because you didn't get the ending you liked, STFU. I played all three, loved all three and don't regret a minute. That's successful game making.

Starforged.
Damn straight!

El_Wray88.
Nope, I hated a lot more about Mass Effect 3 than just the ending.

Starforged.
Except for the Tali reveal. That pissed me off. :)

steveothestarwarsfan.
"That Ending" is just fine, and even quite awesome and makes more sense with the Extended Cut. People who are still complaining about it now need to get over it.

SirSpillsALot.
bwahahahahahahahahaha "the ending is just fine"... that's the funniest thing I've read in a long time

spankovision.
and you're still an idiot

steveothestarwarsfan.
So you return my truth hurts comment with juvenile tendencies and prove my thoughts on why its hard to take a lot of the ME 3 ending haters seriously because they don't really have a good argument as to why they think it sucks, just a bunch of bitching because its not their 'ideal' ending.

Bosh82.
I'm quite certain that you have already heard all the reasons why people hated the ending, you're just being an idiot. :) We don't need to repeat ourselves. Anyway, if you copy+paste> 'mass effect 3 ending: tasteful, understated nerdrage' on youtube that's practically all of our arguments right there. Other than that, the extended dlc did improve the ending immensely and my Shepard survived...in a bullshit way but he surived nonetheless.

AOPrinciple.
If you don't think there are any well-thought out and intelligent arguments about why the ending sucks, then you just haven't looked around. The ending does suck from any reasonable literary perspective and it has very, very little to do with the fact that it wasn't "ideal" for any group of players. I would suggest Mr. Btongue's or Smudboy's commentary on the ending; they're both on youtube. A lot of people who dislike the ending don't bother to argue that the ending is bad anymore because it's so friggin well-documented. I think that in many contexts it can simply be taken from granted that the ending is terrible because so much ink has been spilled with regard to why that's the case. Do some research before glibly remarking that there are not good arguments.

Guest.
excellent rebuttal my good sir...screw the haters!

TheCynicalGamer.
The ending makes no sense. The Extended Cut fixed nothing. It made things worse.

Hellishreaper.
Why is "far from ME3's tone" a minus? if anything it should be a + it actually adds to it, it makes you feel as there not all hope is gone.. its a nice change of pace from the rest of the story, which is the way it was meant to be.

bryanee83.
I'll just imagine the destroy ending is cannon, my Shepard survived and then we partied hard on a freshly cleaned Citadel. Such a brilliant piece of DLC.

Waco_Kid.
that's kind of how I feel. This dlc was the ending of the trilogy, it doesn't matter to me that it came a year after the game and the ending that I can't defend were released, because this was great.

NoLifeKing23.
How much does it cost? All of the DLC should cost 15 bucks total. Not each, total. Single player DLC is way overpriced. Havent played a single player game that is worth more than 60 bucks, ever.

NerdiAm.
Dark souls is awaiting your purchase then my friend. It will kick your butt and you will love every minute of it.

NoLifeKing23.
I've beaten it. Black Knight Great Axe is my friend. But guess what? Its only worth...60 bucks. Nothing more, nothing less.

andrewn0920.
Shadow Broker was worth it for me. I feel like I should have paid more for that.

Waco_Kid.
that was a great piece of dlc.

Andodalf.
I'm so sorry you haven't played a TES game!

NoLifeKing23.
I have, and guess what, they are priced right, 60 bucks.

Thribs.
Â£11.99

xWARxDEMON.
What I'm more interested in is why you guys didn't review omega DLC...probably because it sucked so bad it would ruin your praise streak for bioware..

babyhenchy1.
God, so much negativity here, despite this being some of the best work ever done on the Mass Effect trilogy.

Splathew.
Agreed. I thought it was outstanding. All those people complaining can just not buy it and miss out.

Maroon10.
Perfect 10! for me, of course the tone is off but I'm very happy about that, we need a break and this DLC combined with the extended cut more than redeemed ME3 for its faults!

Silverkraid66.
This was a wonderful send off to the Mass Effect universe and its characters. It was funny, heartfelt and bittersweet. Like saying goodbye to an old friend. I'm going to miss the Mass Effect trilogy, but I'm glad I was there from the beginning, and I can't wait to see what Bioware does next.

Septimus77.
I'm sad to see this end.I love this series so much.

6_30.
There's a pretty funny scene in the elivator of the Normandy near the end of the DLC with Garrus, I had Wrex also but I dont know if he's needed for it to play out. Makes fun of the elevator rides from the original Mass Effect.. :P

El_Wray88.
I don't know why though, the elevators were 1000x better than the stupid load screens

Sonic10158.
He also had afunny scene in ME2 with Tali about those elevators. Both are hilarious

Waco_Kid.
Wrex isn't necessary. Garrus made a joke about ME1 elevators when I had him and Ash in there with me.

Miamiborn1993.
I'll miss you Shepard

MassEffect504.
Stupid stupid stupid. It's like the Reapers don't even exist in most of these DLCs. Well, yeah, you know, I'm commander Shep. Lets just sit back, customize my new apartment, party all night while the Reapers kill millions.

Silverkraid66.
Right, From Ashes and Leviathan had nothing to do with the Reapers. Taking back Omega was completely inconsequential to the war effort, and the entire game largely ignored the Reaper threat. Wait..

TheStuffDude.
I absolutely love this DLC. So much fun listening to all the funny/over the top dialogue as you can clearly tell that the story in this DLC shows it's not taking itself seriously and it's actually a celebration of the great characters of the ME universe. And for all those who are STILL complaining about the ending.... GET OVER IT!

Robotfan987.
Why they can do fanservice here and not in a conclusion that everyone wanted to get to day one is beyond me. Really too bad.

cc008.
I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favorite DLC on the Xbox.

Drumjod7.
Darg, caught a couple spoilers as I skimmed that review. It's my own fault though. Just finished all the DLC for ME 2 and preparing to get started with ME 3. This is possibly my favorite game series and I haven't even played the third yet. Going to College for Software Engineering doesn't allow much time for video games...

Azn_Nguyen72.
I actually like the humor in this DLC.

SecondCitySavior.
Time to dive back in Mass Effect 3.

jjwells1135.
Nice try at getting more of my money, EA.

Squishymuffin.
Meanwhile; The Reapers continue their extermination of all intelligent beings in the known Galaxy.

Sonic10158.
I actually like this more than LotSB!

Waco_Kid.
so did I. Lair of the Shadow Broker was more important to the story of the universe, but this was more fun.

Clay.
If Mass Effect 3 would of been released with all this DLC in the game in the 1st place it would of been a lot better. Game was hurried up to much in my opinion.

andrew_136101.
this is literally a MUST HAVE DLC if you are down and having a miserable day play Citadel DLC you will get your money's worth and laughter along the way

bjdj82.
I loved the ending of Mass Effect. Synthesis ending was the perfect ending of my Shepherd's tale. Had to get that out there.

the_Texanite.
God, I love this series so much. Sad to see it all end...

SmOothCrMiNaL.
Wrex in the casino: "I look... ridiculous."

Splathew.
The party alone is worth $15.

jaredabel001.
Man, I loved Mass Effect, as much as I hate giving EA my money, I feel like I need an ending like this for it.

jaredabel001.
Broke down and bought it, too bad EAs failed attempt at Simcity slowed their servers down to a crawl so it'll take me 10 hours to download a 3 GB DLC.

snake8793.
i loved playing this dlc, it was for the true mass effect fans which I am one. Was laughing the whole time while playing. Loved the part with Wrex in the shower drunk if you keep talking to him he says cowboy bebop references cause we all know the voice actor is Steve Blum who is Wrez and spike I was dying. I really didn't want it to be over.

cdXtreme81.
Damn it, guess i'll wait til pay day :(

JediRevan1138.
it nice to see Shepard waking up next to his LI even though she has a bubbly butt! it was very touching to hang out with Zaeed one last one:'( Robin will always be remembered as Zaeed and yes including that guy from Spongebob! I would except the DLC ending over the garbage ending we where stuck with even though the EC didn't help much.

detones821.
Loved the first 2 but haven't played 3 just cuz of how poorly received the ending was. It'd be one thing if the criticism wasn't so unanimous but it's obviously bad if they actually had to respond with an extended cut. Damn shame they didn't know how to end it and took the easy way out.

Thatoneguy335.
I was initially going to take that approach. I didn't actually buy ME3 until about a month ago, I'm so glad I did. The ending was upsetting but the ride was definitely worth it. It's only 10$ on Origin right now, if you play on a PC I'd highly recommend picking it up.

Reaver72.
The ending is irritating, but don't let it ruin the other 30-50 hours of the game, depending on DLC and what kind of pace you play at. Not to mention all the time you already put into the other games. Hell, stop right before the ending if you don't want it ruined.

Waco_Kid.
don't let the last 15-20 minutes keep you from experiencing the other 30+ hours.

ShallaTSoni.
I loved the DLC. I wish it was after the ending. I wished we had vehicles and new world hubs too. The other content and romancing was good but still should of have us options to invite them up permanately.

Thribs.
Did anyone else find the beginning where Shepard used Joker as bait out of character? You didn't even get to choose to do that.

Waco_Kid.
I found it hilarious.

mattginis.
DIe hard fan right here how could u guys be okay with this.We got a comedy sitcom as a final sendoff.WHAT ABOUT ALL THE ENDING PLOT HOLES. They werent addressed.Why would people be partyin during a reaper war.What about the breath scene?WHat about the oily shadows? I feel like bioware raped me and they like it RIP mass effect =( sadly the only saving grace it coulda had RIP INDOCTRINATION THEORY =(

Brunwulf_Ov_Woden.
They simply just left in open for people to interpret the ending in their own minds. The same way that a lot of great books and a lot of great movies do/did. Gamers will discussing the merit of many theories and ideas for years to come. If they had just answered every question then the legend of Shepard would have died and faded into obscurity.

spankovision.
so im curious what are these books and movies you speak of?

Brunwulf_Ov_Woden.
The Italian Job (original), Thelma and Louise, Batman Begins, The Dark Knight Rises, Inception, The original Star Wars Trilogy, The Matrix, Forest Gump and pretty much every one of Shakespeare's works ends with a number of unresolved questions. They are littered with situations open to interpretation almost entirely throughout. That is why hundreds of years later they are still talked and relevant because they ask questions of people and how they feel. This is also coming from someone who is not a massive Bioware fan or a huge fan of ME in general. I have been through each game once, saw the story i wanted to experience and I draw my own conclusions from that. I don't want to be spoon fed definitive conclusions. People should realise that not everyone has the same experience/story playing through the ME trilogy, so why should everyone get the exact same answers.

detones821.
None of the movies you mention have unresolved endings. Literally none

Brunwulf_Ov_Woden.
No they don't but neither does ME. Just certain questions that are left unanswered which is something that all of those movies have and that was the point of my argument. They all have final endings but none of them answer all of the questions that were raised in the intricacies of their plots. Your talking about cliffhanger endings, i am not.

spankovision.
THANKYOU! too many diehard bioware fanboys in here.

HardcoreDeadlygamer.
So wait, why the hell did they make a comedy ME3 DLC again? Has Bioware really lost their minds?

spankovision.
im all for some comic relief but this dlc lays it on so thick its ridiculous. and the ending still sucks. pass.

Ricky_Spanish.
I played through ME 1 about 8 times. I played through ME2 10 times. I loaded my saved games from the first and second game and played through ME3 only once. I never even loaded my Renegade saves. That ending killed the entire series for me.

star_platinum_oraora.
waaaaaa

Ricky_Spanish.
Blow me

infinityDevoted.
http://uberhumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/qhEUoGC.jpg

mazariamonti.
There's probably a lot of things in this DLC that are completely stupid, but with that said, the only things that makes the mass effect series special are the universe and the characters. While the ending destroyed the universe, ME3 destroyed the characters (well the ME2 ones anyway), hopefully this DLC can repair that part of the series.

abHS4L88.
Oh poo, just sold the game the other day. Either way, I'm done with having to pay extra to experience the whole story instead of having it all in the game already, especially at the price it's set at :P.

Sonic10158.
But it isn't like this particular dlc was meant to be in the game but was cut, like From Ashes or Omega

abHS4L88.
I guess, but the price they charge for these DLC is still rather high. I mean for the price of 3-4 of these DLC, I could buy a whole retail game that'll last me much longer and for the most part, once you've played it, it loses it's impact.

texasgoldrush.
Do the ending bashers know why this DLC is not post ending content? Because Bioware did their market research and found that those who want more post ending content were NOT THE MAJORITY. Looks like the SILENT MAJORITY either likes or accepts the ending...deal with it.

3TREY3.
that would be the other away around your the minority it's pretty easy to switch things around Eaware did it with the crap ending debate by calling it "controversial" money making 1-1 people returning game at record speeds watching this game go from 60 to 20$ in less than 6 months those are facts last game I remember doing that was Duke Nukem don't believe me watch this vid and actually explore the net for these results instead of taking them from EA and Bioware http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu731UtTFqo&list=LLl7VCtWmZCTdU8QMAvo3J4A

Hexley_UK.
You are full of it Texas...go suck more corporate dick.

darcgames.
What is the use of playing DLC of a game that basically f'd itself by such a rediculous ending.

GerStud101.
I cant believe people are still crying about this...

Thribs.
Playing it right now inbetween Tomb Raider. It's fun but the humour is kind of weird. Them going on about the sushi bar seemed out of character of them.

bbr1394.
I love how Javik calls you a "trailblazer" for falling through a fish tank. It made me feel like a badass.

Waco_Kid.
that was fantastic.

Hexley_UK.
"It's a real shame that Mass Effect's legacy feels doomed to be That Ending" But hang on IGN didn't you lot love that completely shit ending? Especially that loud mouth waste of space Moriarty......how things change eh? Yes the ending is complete bollocks and unfortunetely this does not change that one iota...in fact it only makes the ending look even worse than it already did...and that's quite an achievement.

xxxKenseIxxx.
Yay! Now I can enjoy the sweet pleasures of having a proper game, only to be doused out by forced on ending that I didn't have a choice in. The Sacrifice is rejected, this ain't gettin BioWare outta my trash can.

naruchigo.
I have posted this on bsn and HTL thought i 'd post it here since it pertains to this last dlc Ultimately i feel this last dlc is the latest and last middle finger to fans. This game should have been huge and could of been huge if they had just stuck with the script that was leaked. They should have stuck with me1 and 2s lore not throw it out the window. Whom ever it was Ea or casey hudson the fact remains it was the worst possible call. Off the heels of me2, me3 was on the 1 yd line they pass to casey hudson, Ea, etc and they fumble the ball and end up going for a field goal. a cruddy field goal. I have seen multiple post on these forums and other sites saying this game should have been about dark matter or energy to define what the reapers ultimate purpose was. At the very least we should of had most of the missions that me3 has cpet for the cerberous ones. I feel cerberous was blown out of proportion. Half way through the game we kill harbringer before he dies he reveals what the reapers have been doing all this time and their purpose and shepard goes off to fight dark matter energy w/e all detailed in that leaked script which for some unknown reason bioware ditches and serves up a huge pile of **** to the players. No a new ending isnt enough to fill the plothole or to fix all the lore they abandoned. The prrotheans lost to the reapers because they were isolated since the relays were shut down from the citadel. not because of "attrition". As the poll suggested an entire rewrite or said leaked script would need to be done to ultimately absolve what bioware/ea has done here. A travesty if nothing else. It wasn't fan negative reaction as to why the founders of bioware left. I am sure its because they got tired of EA ruining everything about their company. Now its only a matter of time before they end up like westwood. Forgotten and utterly closed down, dispanded etc. I hope and pray that visceral games makers of dead space are spared such a fate that befell bioware and mass eftect 3 and not just another casualty of publisher greed and misunderstanding of what is right. In the end ALL future ME and Dragon Age games will be held with the utmost scrutiny and criticism for what has been done to previous games. Oh and speaking of endings, casey hudson if you do end up reading this look to your fellow devs at visceral they at least know how to write a proper ending.

TunaFreeDolfin.
Sounds just as disappointing as the Mass Effect series as a whole. Lots of potential that leads to some jackhole's punchline. I'm glad these games are over and look forward to not putting anymore money into this franchise.

ShallaTSoni.
Your obviously not a fan. Go away troll.

shecalledme_jay.
My ending was epic, I don't understand the hate, I know everybody saw Shepard take that breathe at the end, what else needed to happen?

MidWestCoastin.
Just like one of the sentences in the IGN review says it all and it's sad that it's the case, but it's true to a "good portion" of fans. "It's a real shame that Mass Effect's legacy feels doomed to be That Ending, when this DLC far more appropriately sums up why the series meant so much to so many." The series did mean a lot to me. A LOT. I've never connected with a video game ever. I still am connected to this game. Don't get me wrong. I just replayed through them all and bought this DLC and enjoyed it, but my opinion/feelings still are the same exact way now compared to last year. The ending really really hurts the series a bit for me. It's "the ending". No it can't please everyone, but when you are at the Free throw line and you have 3 shots and you only need to make one...and you are also a +90% Free throw shooter, you are hoping to win the game. To me, they dropped the ball right when it mattered the most. Shepard could've died. That's fine. Go out guns a blazing. The whole entire ending sequence is not the Shepard I've watched over the course of the series. I'm not the only one who feels that way. Believe me. Many of the polls out there show how over 50% of people are affected by it. Again, I LOVE the series and love Bioware for creating this for me (us). They really dropped the ball though when it mattered most and just ended up crapping on the fans and trying to build around the crap by releasing free content for MP and this DLC.

shecalledme_jay.
So how would you have liked the series to end?

MidWestCoastin.
My Shepard didn't need to ride off into the sunset man, and what do you think I am, some writer/developer where it's my job? I'm not in some minority here when I say that the ending was very badly written and poorly executed. It is very well documented but it's a waste of time anymore to argue over it anymore. Again, one of my favorite games of all time and I'll never connect with a game again like I did with Mass Effect in general. To answer your question, one that made sense and didn't leave many of us wondering if any of the post laser shot-to the beam-ending really ever happened. Why would a very good portion wonder what in the heck happened and was left confused? Poorly executed man. I had no idea how I saw it ending, but I sure as heck didn't anticipate being left with such a crap taste in my mouth and a regret (at first) of pouring 150+ hours of my life and emotion into this series. I regretted at first ever falling in love with ME. The ending was "that bad" to many of us. Since then, I've replayed through them all. I played the Citadel DLC. To me, THAT should have been the epilogue. I've made up my own ending in my head on how things played out regardless of not actually seeing it because since none of it made sense, I'm left to do so.

MidWestCoastin.
For it all to make sense to me. I don't know why it's so hard for some people on the other side of the spectrum to understand where people are coming from who may support the IT. The EC Ending did absolutely nothing for me and still didn't fill any major plot holes the ending had. I love 95% of ME3 and the Trilogy is likely going to be my favorite trilogy of all time (video games of all time) so don't take this the wrong way and that I'm just wanting to hate. I can't stand it still because nothing makes sense to me about the entire ending so I've made up my own ending in my head; inception style because without my own version/view on what happens, it's full of flaws.

illhearted.
I wish ppl would really stop talking about ME3 endings like it was bad, thk u could do better? oh sorry i dont see ur game with epic ending :o

El_Wray88.
It's not our jobs to write endings to videogames man. I hate when people say that "I don't see you blah blah blah" I'm not paid to do that. If Bioware wanted to hire me to write an ending for ME3, then yes, not only I but a couple hundred or thousand people could come up with a much better ending.

Hexley_UK.
To little to late..... If they really wanted to make it up to fans this would have been post-ending DLC and free.

Jughedjones.
it's 'too,' idiot.

Blasian89.
shut up and play it, this DLC offers a TON of content and an amazingly hilarious adventure. You REALLY have no idea

Listenkids.
I love how the reviewer is mentioning "the ending" yet the original game review never called it all, but wait, it's after the fiasco and IGN can jump aboard that band wagon as per usual, like the sheep they are. I'll be back when articles aren't lifted straight from Reddit and reviews are some weight to them. Peace.

Nick_140541.
no ty

IAMDAPOWAA.
Awesome! I just got some Microsoft Points for free from freemspointsforever com

StarlightMan.
ME's legacy won't be "that ending". I still have fond, untarnished memories of ME1 and ME2. And honestly, the ending of ME3 is the least of its problems. Lack of any way to track mission progress, and the characters of Vega and Diane are just awful.

ldratyan.
I do think that the ending is the worst part of ME3, but I agree that there were more issues with the game.

El_Wray88.
Thank you, finally someone doesn't act like the game is perfect. Although I thought Vega was alright myself.

pahlke.
True it doesn't replace the ending because they did it in the first place. EA published games have all screwed up.

Maroon10.
How did they make it so funny? They must have hired a dozen comedy writers.

BoBucks.
I highly recommend this video which explains a very convincing theory that the reapers have been attempting to indoctrinate Shepard throughout the entire series. It explains the strange ending and just might change your opinion from bullshit to brilliant... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ythY_GkEBck

majorcoXsore.
oh cool, its only taken a year.

clonetrooperkev1.
In all honesty though, I don't care about the endings. This is how I ended it. Shepard defeats the Reapers and survives. And he sees all the damage that has been done, and realizes he has to live life. He goes with Tali to her planet and rebuilds. Creating a future for him and her and staying out of history's way. Giving rise to a new hero...

clonetrooperkev1.
"It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go to than I have ever known."

SUPERF0RCE.
10! u could have given it a 10, there are no negative points to its content, the ending should not bog down this DLC and what it delivered, the tone and joking around was perfect. Best 15 bucks I ever spent on new content

Ramnozack.
Eh I dont like that they always refer to Shepard as a she either. I played through as femshep once and it just didnt feel right. Besides in a poll they did a couple months after ME3 came out it stated the majority of gamers (roughly 75% malesheps and 25% femsheps,) play as MShep and they always had MShep as the coverboy for the ME series so Id say MShep is the 'real' shep for most gamers.

Newfie360.
Off topic question about ME2. Is it possible to hook up with 2 love interests? Cause i did miranda, then jack somehow. Was it a glitch cause i thought you could only have one. Also im veeery bored at work lol.

Maroon10.
Yes you can hook up with all of them including Liara on the same play through after destroying the collector base, I did it once and it was hilarious.

Fire_Phoenix01.
"Garrus's idea of efficient home security. It involves explosives" I busted out laughing at that. I'm only on part 1 of the trilogy, but that sounds so like something he'd come up with

Wolfthatwonders.
So I only played it once through but saved it and tried mulitple endings. I dont understands really anything that happen. Somepeople think the boy at the end is acutlly endoctranation? why do the warp terminals blow up ? and why is the normady in a warp stream anyways? they end up crashing on a planet with what looks like the two charcters I played with the most, which should of been there with me on the citdel?? WhAAA i can anyone explain what happened, i have not played any of the dlc but I dont care if someone just tells me. I loved the Series ALOT pretty much intill this ending it just killed the hype. It dident even make sense. was there any answers?

Deadpool5566.
Was I the only one who started shooting at the reaper right when gameplay first began and yelled 'WELCOME TO EARTH F*CKER!' (Sorry I keep getting censored)

IllregularHunterZero.
It was a nice little end, the Shepard Trilogy will be missed but then thats what future re play through's are all about. Heres to the next Mass Effect game

gchris6784.
This DLC should have been the true ending. The Extended Cut made it a little better but the Citadel would have been a much better ending. I'll just have to pretend this was the ending, not Shepard under some rubble.

CrazyAdvent.
This is the one piece of ME3 DLC i actually feel like paying for to get.

HisDivineOrder.
I don't own this DLC or Omega because of the outrageous price for a limited DLC. That said, based on the review, I'm surprised they didn't do a time rewind at the end. You know how at the end of Cloverfield they keep flashing back to the past? Or in End of Watch. It's like you go back to some mid-part scene that you didn't see fully until the end. Because once you know the final result of everything, sometimes it's worthwhile to go back to that mid-part to see them at their best right before the other things happen. Just because that's how humans are. We think about that last moment before the descent into hell when we think about the person as much as we think about the end result, whatever that is. I'm surprised Bioware didn't do that with this. Have this be a moment in time, a rewind, to give full meaning to what these individuals meant to one another. I also think it sounds like it finally addresses the big question I have always had which is how do they explain that the world is in crisis and only three of them step up to take care of it while everyone else is relaxing on the ship, napping, or getting sloshed at the lounge?

jaguar_claw.
Apparently I'm in the minority but I thought the ending to ME3 was fantastic. Looking forward to getting this DLC as well.

ShaggyJesse.
This is the prettiest looking DLC of them all. You'll have to wonder around listening to citizens talk to get the full experience. The boss battle is tricky and the new riot shield enemies are tough. Only get this though if you have at least played ME2. This is a farewell for fans of the TRILOGY, not just ME3.

Sora1233.
that feeling.....i feel it. its like when mass effect 2 ending was happening the joy of having all the guys you went through hell to become loyal and protect the team you grew to respect doing a mission of a life time THIS is what Mass Effect does This is amazing i cant wait to buy it!!

Raistlin_Majere_21.
Damn how I wish I could ignore my hatred and play this DLC...

BritishAdam-PSN.
AND it just came out on PS plus for free.. oh yeahhhh (Even though I have it on xbox too ha)

jutheto.
Damn, at one point during the review, it sounded as if there was going to be an anime beach episode (during an incredibly dangerous time, let's give our heroes the weekend off...)

dhgpan.
Can't say i liked the generic story of this DLC. I also think that the festive half of this DLC should be free for everyone to enjoy.

lordvader1998.
+ Hilariously Funny - Takes the joke a little too far ?????

BIGBLUE10789.
I for one loved this dlc. Brings back so many great memories from the entire series, which happens to be my favorite series this gen. I understand mass effects perceived "legacy" now after the ending, but i personally really dont care. Sure the ending wasnt ideal, but you know what? Not gonna let that spoil all the great memories i have of this amazing series. After all, i value the journey more so and the amazing moments that followed. Of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and I respect that. I'm just glad for me personally that the ending doesn't taint the series for me.

siavm123.
I liked this. But there is a weird part with vega if you invite him and follow him after the cut scene. And keep talking to Gunt until you can not anymore. The stuff he says and does makes this dlc worth the price.

BlackMyst.
Messing With My Cabin!

Darkholow.
I really enjoyed every bit of this final dlc that it has to offer. So much fan service should be illegal ! (joking). It was an amazing sendoff, even though it doesn't change the ending at all. Having one last party with all the party members from all of the games really hit home for me and I will never forget it.

raim42.
Definitely not what I was expecting. When I heard the concept for this DLC I thought that Bioware was pulling a very overpriced and outragous "Horse Armor." Still overpriced, but it seems like it may be worth looking into

GoldZX.
I've passed on all the Mass Effect 3 DLC (multiplayer not included) until now. Finally, some DLC that looks to be on par with what Mass Effect 2 offered.

mosannam9696.
So now I wait until they release a complete version of Mass Effect, like they probably should have before they released the trilogy, and I have a blast.

IriathZhul.
And now...maybe they'll release all of them at once...and my patience will be rewarded.

grapes9h5.
ONE MORE TIME!!!!!! (Daft Punk and ME go together quite well)

Newfie360.
And i traded this in lol. Maybe i should pick up the 3 pack. any one know if dlc is included?

Sonic10158.
They have some, but not all. The xbox 360 version only has a couple of packs. The ps3 has quite a few.

Thribs.
I don't think so. This just came out.

Newfie360.
well not this dlc, but the ones for the first 2. cause it would suck if you had to buy them

fragsdontstick.
Anyone know what this DLC is like if everyone died in Mass Effect 2/ Wrex died in Mass Effect 1 (or in 3 I guess). I plan on playing it twice with both saves. I just feel like it would be kinda empty considering just about everyone can die. Including Kaidon/Ashley in 3 if you play it at the right time.

ldratyan.
Captain Anderson: "Shepard! We've lost millions today, please hurry and help us prevent the total anihillation of life in the galaxy!" Shepard: "lol nope I'm partying with my #bffs #YOLO"

Dartfulodger.
What do they mean by 'takes the joke too far'. Its HILARIOUS

sjay449.
The whole grunt wrex scene was amazing WREX: Shepard GRUNT: Shepard SHEPARD: Wrex, Grunt WREX: SHEEEEEEPARD GRUNT: COMMANDER shepard SHEPARD: Wrex, Grunt? WREX: Shepard, Shepard, Shepard It goes on

bbr1394.
I died of laughter when I saw that. :D

ballsandshaft.
Why do they always refer to shepard as a girl? I don't think a single one of my friends or I ever played them as that.

Paul_pso.
I always play as a chick if i can. hell if im gonna be staring at someones ass running around for hours id prefer it be a womans

JHBorden.
I usually stare at the enemies and obstacles in front of me,why stare at a toons ass at all?

thePaRadddox.
toon's ass? did u see the new Lara Croft ??

bigphunBox.
Her ass is the least compelling part of the new model actually. Awesome game art anyway.

xdevx518.
I hope that you don't pursue the romantic relationships with your female character. Trying to court someone of the same sex says a lot more about you than what characters ass is on the screen.

Windfish_Jr.
Let's all reel back on the sexual insecurities, ok? Mass Effect isn't a game for kids, so let's not act like kids -unless, we're talking about the ending. In that regard we are all whiny brats.

Paul_pso.
I went with liara as femshep and tali as male

Reno88.
did you just say court? i'm pretty sure that term was finished with in the 60'S!

Deadpool5566.
Think the 1860s bro...

Wolfthatwonders.
depends were you live

littleraf1.
The real question is why Bioware felt the need to have so many sex-scenes and make it where pursuing sexual encounters was the main theme of the game. So this says more about Bioware's dev-team than it does anyone else.

KindbastardX.
You can easily play the game without forcing a sex scene, so I have to disagree that sex is the main theme of the game....but it was definitely a bonus

reiniat.
you know in ME2 i actually felt in the Jack sex scene accidentally in front of my family and i was really embarrased

Jugistoteles.
Yes, that is the real question indeed. :rolleyes:

JKSonic80.
Or you could look at it as you're ROLE-PLAYING a woman...

Hellington.
I doubt that was his intention..

reiniat.
You can, thats the whole point of Roleplaying

Wolfthatwonders.
the other side of that coin is if you play as a girl for hours your distracted from the game.

Hellington.
How insecure are you.. Do you secretly romance guys too? Not that there's anything wrong with that, but you are kinda contradicting yourself on all fronts here.

Pinback_Sherman.
I did. I like it better that way. And I'm a dude. I like bad ass girls.

vwolf01.
And you lost half of a pleasure from the series then. Actually nah, 75% of it. Real Shepard is a woman. End of.

Ryuu501st.
Because the voice actor for male Shepard was terrible.

Guest.
If you have to stare at that character's ass for hours on end. Wouldn't you prefer it to be an ass you would actually stare at?

Hellington.
why are you people staring at the ass? That's what Ash and Miranda were for

thedarqness.
Wow! This is just an admission you know(and thereby have not felt the touch of) any non-familial women. I guess w/ that name... who would've guessed it? Just about every woman I know plays as a female or at least has a fem-Shep save.

CdrShepard93.
Im a dude and I have made a Paragon male shep and a Renagade fem shep

Guest.
*In shame*

SardaukarGhola.
Wow, being funny is not your thing

Bf4life.
Did you make an account just to say that? If you did, good for you.

babakuso.
Awesome username!

ben_rage_v2.0.
Ha . . . no http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgAImk7PCf0

Sir_Arthur.
that was so BAD it was actually Hilarious

RCC97.
Yet, you're here...

boogon123.
Darn. If only I didn't have wrex die in the first game

bsemph16.
You should play the series from the beginning again

z7link.
I...must have missed this scene T__T I'm sad

Niceneasy92.
woa woa woa... when I first read that, I thought you had put Grunt sex scene. That's some scary stuff to think about.

Buckeyes67890.
"I should go. I SHOULD go. I should GO."

Fellstrike.
God forbid the crew get two nights off while their ship is repaired. Why, that would almost be too realistic to military standards. =P

Reaver72.
**SPOILER ALERT** Nothing to do with your comment, but a few spaces down some guy spoils who the villain is of the DLC, so for anyone reading this who hasn't played it yet, don't read any farther down if you don't want to be spoiled.

KnaveSkye.
As ex-Navy, if shits going down and you pull in to make repairs, you don't get time off...you assist. So...

EHawkeye.
Actually Shepard lived twice

ExtremophileElite.
Shepard! Take down that Reaper with your omni-tool!

Sonic10158.
Go to Ilos before Saren gets to the Conduit and lets sovereign attack the citadel before its too late! Shepard: "lol nope, I'm looking for Turian Insignias". Go take out the Collector Base before they eradicate all of humanity! Shepard: "lol nope, I'm looking at a ship wreckage

SuckMyCOG.
This DLC may have been better than most but not by much. With all the hype built up for this DLC through those twitter posts a short while back, I expected it to be more than a clone Shepard as the villain. Not very creative... I'm going to have to agree with Idratyan and IGN; story-wise (a BIG issue with this game as we all well know) this DLC did not fit in with everything else. I mean, the galaxy is on the brink of EXTINCTION, GENOCIDE, and Shepard takes the time to throw a party for his friends and uncover a glitching fight club game...Seriously? While the comedy and references were good, I can't help but feel like it more of Bioware just saying, "Remember we did this? And this? Guys? GUYS?!" It felt more like it was just a reminder to what the series was over the atrocity it is now with the ending, Leviathan, and Omega. But once the clone Shepard is dealt with and the party is over and everyone returns to work, one replays the ending, and it ultimately reminded every time of the simple fact that, in the end, nothing matters. This is the legend of Mass Effect.

JawthVader.
Is it really that hard to write SPOILER ALERT?

SuckMyCOG.
Was it really that hard to make a good ending? Apparently so... EDIT: You must not go on the internet often if you didn't expect to find spoiler alerts....

TheCynicalGamer.
Actually, as a writer, endings are one of the hardest sections of a story to write. Now I'm not saying that it justifies ME3's horrible ending (nothing does), but don't make completely stupid comments like that, if you don't know what you are talking about.

Newfie360.
I write to, and endings where never hard for me personly. I usualy come up with the ending and begining first, and the climax at the end of act 2. My problem is all the parts between those 3 sections. Edit: why am i getting down votes? some people find different aspects of writing harder then others. If i came off as an ass i didnt mean to.

SuckMyCOG.
Also, as a writer, I would agree with you. Now I understand there are writers and other workers who have left Bioware over the course of the series, but when the company makes endings like they did for 1 and 2 and then all agree that 3's ending was okay to distribute in the final product, there's something wrong there. You can't say they had a sit-down, went over the ending, watched it, whatever and went, "Yeah, that'll work." I don't buy it.

Newfie360.
I like it when the hero dies at the end in some kind of sacrafice. But yeah, there should have been a shepard lives ending

ShiningArmor.
Seriously asshole? Thank you for ruining the plot twist of it for me. Spoiler tags next time dick.

SuckMyCOG.
I'd agree if it was actually something jaw-dropping. It's not like it was a good story or anything. You should thank me. I just saved you money and time.

Alienhole.
You don't need to agree. It's common courtesy.

edmond_villamor.
Though I'm not as mad about the spoiler, I just have to say it...... You can SuckMyCOG! There!

Scubasteve117.
You mad?

Reaver72.
You fucking dick. I don't care how much you didn't like it, you put up a goddamn spoiler tag before you say a crucial plot point, especially on a DLC that just came out a couple days ago. I just bought it this morning and haven't had a chance to play it yet.Thanks asshole.

Zebular0.
Then one would ask why you are on IGN reading a review of it if you have already purchased it.

Reaver72.
I had already read other reviews of it before I bought it and I wanted to see if IGN said similar things, or maybe brought up something the other ones didn't.

Flyboy12.
Okay the whole "shepard throwing a party while the reapers are exterminating the galaxy" is annoying. The same could be said about Mass Effect 1 when Saren is about to bring the reapers through the Conduit and annihilate the citadel but you're off getting Wrex's family armor, or in Skyrim where dragons have returned and are burning villages and the dragonborn is off stealing sh*t for the thieves guild. My point is THIS IS A SIDE QUEST IN AN RPG!! I think you forgot what genre you're playing.

edmond_villamor.
Amen to that brother! You said it!

SuckMyCOG.
The difference is that finding Wrex's armor, though not as impactful as it could have been, helped establish a relationship with a character that will help further down the road. Throwing a party grants development in the character's personalities but doesn't help in any way shape or form down the road. Simply put, one side quest is relevent and one is not.

Ocean_1.
Wow... spoils the dlc for everyone just to be a jerk, isn't even sorry about it. Asking the mods to remove the post and ban this guy. IGN would be better off without you, SuckMyCOG.

Broodax.
that was the point, you fought the reapers and you died....1 person never matters in the overarching plot of life EVER

JawthVader.
That's a terrible way to look at the series. Of course Shepard mattered whether he died or not. Even if you shot the hologram and didn't stop the Reapers, the damage you did to their fleet combined with the warning to the next civilization meant that they were stopped eventually. Shepard is either directly responsible or partly responsible for saving trillions of lives.

SuckMyCOG.
I see what you're getting at but I don't feel that applies as much to fiction. While we all want it to be believeable and as realistic as possible, fans also want a happy ending. Even more so, when you devote 100+ hours, approximately $300-$500 on the series overall between the games and the DLCs and possible another couple hundred bucks on comics, books, collectibles, etc., and you devote all this into a story, an ending like that is worse than a disappointment. That's the problem.

Explainer.
you retards still say yolo lol this generation is so screwed

SongSeven.
...but "retards" is fine?

Mirriban.
Yeah, I honestly hate that word :P Way worse than YOLO. But hey, say what you wanna say, I mean YOLO right?

PlatformMaster918.
a man would call you a retard, but that would be an insult to actual retards. A man speaks purely in jest please do not take it personally.

Mirriban.
Dude...epic...gotta love some Game of Thrones.

PlatformMaster918.
a man would encourage you read the books. A man is looking forward to season 3 with great anticipation. Expect a man to return at some point in future years ;)

TheHoradricCube.
Fine words from Jaqen.

TheCynicalGamer.
YOLO isn't even a word. At least "retard" is in the English dictionary.

JawthVader.
As long as you're not calling a mentally handicapped person a retard, then YOLO is worse. I was hoping that stupid fad would die out in a couple months, and it's still going strong.

Obrusnine.
At the risk of sounding dumb, what the hell does YOLO even mean? lol

FirzenSnatcher.
It took me exactly 1 google search to find out what YOLO means. 1. That's it. Here's a tip, kid. You want to survive on the internet, you make sure you don't ask the "what is" question. Ever. Use google. You Only Live Once.

Obrusnine.
You don't have to be a jerk about it.

Mirriban.
You Only Live Once.

Babachewie.
yes retard is fine. the generation before yours wasn't a bunch of PC pussies.

Pinback_Sherman.
Plus - retard was a word before it was associated with people with mental disabilities so I don't see the big deal. Unless you call somebody with disabilities that. Then you're an A-hole.

TheCynicalGamer.
Only retards say the word "retard".

Oldschool_1987.
Angry child.

Pinback_Sherman.
I hate it, too, but what do you mean you still say it? I've only recently seen it around.

AllenSpellwaver.
Hello you 12-years-old.

WanderVSDormin.
A wild Explainer appeared. He used: Understanding A Joke. It wasn't very effective

BRITISH_ASSASIAN11.
This is not a sendoff it takes place before the ending. The ending is still the result, that is enough to ruin the series.

reiniat.
Oh dude i really hope EA releases some kind of bundle with all DLCs so i can use my piracy skills to get all the DLC that i technically already payed for with my day one 80$ (yes 80$). Just to be punished by THAT ending. So i can go trough this last DLC with tears on my eyes all the way trough, crying of happiness at every joke and because they dont know Shepard is gonna die no matter what he does, and this is the last time they all are gonna be togheter... :(... :)

edmond_villamor.
I don't think its hard inserting this at the ending and having the team reminisce something like this, at least its a post game DLC. Shows everybody drinking and saying goodbye to Shepard and remembering one of the missions in between probably ME2 and ME3. They don't have to include all the new characters in ME3 just ME1 and ME2 seeing as the new ones in 3 doesn't matter much anyway, I think the only relevant character is Edi. Apart from her, I'd rather have Mordin and Thane along for the ride. The new characters can say a few words about what they think of Shepard, which is a "real tribute". I'll get this game when I come around wanting to play ME again just for old times sake, but I would have gotten it now if they totally added to the ending, if they won't change it they should have used this to add to it. Whether Shepard breathes or not is a story for another day and as far as the universe is concerned, Shepard died a hero and all his surviving crew is back to pay tribute to his death.

mattginis.
DIe hard fan right here how could u guys be okay with this.We got a comedy sitcom as a final sendoff.WHAT ABOUT ALL THE ENDING PLOT HOLES. They werent addressed.Why would people be partyin during a reaper war.This dlc had a corny plot. What about the breath scene?WHat about the oily shadows? I feel like bioware raped me and they like it RIP mass effect =( sadly the only saving grace it coulda had RIP INDOCTRINATION THEORY =(

Uchihataketo.
Bioware doesn't owe you a happy ending dude. The Extended Cut fixed the plot holes. If you still don't like the ending, then it's just a matter of personal opinion and that's just not their fault.

El_Wray88.
hahaha no it did not.

TCrimson05t.
Either way you aren't going to get a 'new' ending. Ever. It's over. On to Mass Effect 4. (Kanye shugs)

El_Wray88.
Did I ask for one?

SuckMyCOG.
No it didn't.

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