Richard Hall
> Aaaaaaand it’s down. What took you guys so long?
Probably too busy clicking on each individual image in your "gallery".
Reply · 54 · · September 28 at 10:48pm
Alexia Tsotsis · Top Commenter · San Francisco, California
LOL.
Reply · 3 · · September 29 at 2:26am
Doug Crets · Top Commenter · Self Employed at Dbc media
Or listening to their friend's Spotify screens...
Reply · · September 29 at 7:26am
Shawn Farner · Top Commenter · Indiana University of Pennsylvania
Maybe my thinking is a bit too shallow here, but I don't see this catching on. Web-based mobile apps weren't catching on when Apple pushed them. People hacked the iPhone to run native apps. Given the choice, personally, I'd run a native app over a mobile Web app every single time. This is a clever way to get around Apple's restrictions, no doubt, but it comes at a cost -- you lose all the perks of iOS.
Anyway, I'm rambling. Nice find.
Reply · 14 · · September 28 at 10:35pm
Luca Candela · Top Commenter · Product manager at Sencha
Let's agree to disagree :-)
Reply · 7 · · September 28 at 10:39pm
Joe Tweets · Top Commenter · Redmond, Washington
Ditto entirely.
Reply · · September 28 at 10:54pm
Flynn Like
Hi Shawn... don't take your closed-mindedness and apply it to everyone. look at facts: http://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?1413
it seems you are rambling
Reply · 1 · · September 28 at 11:47pm
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Achin Sharma · Top Commenter · Founder at Achshar
wow wonder what Facebook PR has to say about it :P
Reply · 2 · · September 28 at 10:36pm
Erin Wunder
I think the bigger issue is...who give's a hoot! Quit adding, changing, then trying to charge users for things we never asked if we liked, wanted, nor requested. Fb is going to charge, FB has chaged AGAIN this week, FB chat, FB mobile web based app... blah blah blah! Jeez, why cant FB do something that is productive and safe for everyone, instead of trying to glitter up, add more crap,( like their ticker along the side of your page) changing, and "fixing" something that wasn't an issue to begin with. Why not try adding parental controls, or allowing a person to rate their page as well as block it. They've now added security when your page had been deactivated making you PROVE through photo id that it is indeed you on the profile you claim to own. Why cant they do the same with age. Make minors add their age, and get parental co...See More
Reply · 1 · · September 29 at 4:56pm
Jennifer Malcom · Top Commenter · Nashville, Tennessee
They also support Obozo and have a page that all Obozo comments go to. If you talk about him, it's there!
Reply · · September 29 at 6:56pm
Frankie Warren · Princeton in Africa Fellow at EleQtra
Maybe it was a scheduled update to the developer site that someone forgot to unschedule assuming the f8 agenda changed? Just guessing; hopefully we'll see more soon!
Reply · 1 · · September 29 at 12:35am
Bradley Ringel · Bloomington, Indiana
You would think that if they were going to include these shots as examples for developers that they would have at least run it as a "native web app" by saving the shortcut to the home screen first. It gets rid of the safari chrome and makes everything look better. Either way I hope that they build this into their native app. They're almost always faster because they can load the images from the device instead of the web. All that needs to be sent over the air is the bits and pieces of data that the application needs to show the right stuff. That being said, the News feed on the mobile app has been controlled by a web browser for some time. Ever notice how a lot of the organization and look and feel of the feed has changed without updating the app?
Reply · · September 29 at 7:24am
Benjamin Dyer · East Cowes, Isle Of Wight, United Kingdom
This is very interesting, and kudos to FB for being pretty visionary. If they are planning to move towards an HTML5 future I wonder what future the FB iOS app has, if any? Personally I think its crazy, but the advantages of a locally installed app over a mobile app have been discussed to death so there is little point in recovering old ground.
I wonder if FB and Apple will launch the iPad app together on Monday? The pair of them cozying up would signal an interesting shift. Who knows, maybe Apple know and are actively working with FB on this project?
Reply · · September 29 at 6:29am
Syd Lawrence · Cardiff
"Personally I think its crazy, but the advantages of a locally installed app over a mobile app have been discussed to death so there is little point in recovering old ground."
Reply · · September 29 at 6:37am
Syd Lawrence · Cardiff
but what about html5 as a locally installed app... just look at the financial times app for example
Reply · · September 29 at 6:38am
Benjamin Dyer · East Cowes, Isle Of Wight, United Kingdom
Syd Lawrence Thats fine for simple content delivery, such as the FT app, but what about heavy applications that rely on the device, are we really there yet?
Also, and this is the most important thing, the App store model is a success because average Joe knows how to do it, anything that forces users behaviour to change (go here instead of here, do this instead of that) is always going to struggle. I recently asked some non techie friends what they use, the FB app or the mobile site, non of them even knew there was a mobile site.
Who knows maybe Spartan is just a native app with a Safari browser instance serving html5 :)
Reply · · September 29 at 7:09am
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David Walsh · Top Commenter
Isn't that just the m. site with a bit of stuff added on? I thought they has finally seen the light and were developing a load of real lightweight native apps. Purpose built single function stuff so you don't need to wade through a browser, then a menu, then something else, then something else. The smartphone is very much a quick capture device to bring physical things into the Facebook world. Why make it hard to do this with clunky web stuff?
Reply · · September 29 at 2:48am
Josh Lewis · Top Commenter · Atlanta, Georgia
Exactly...At first I thought the FB Messenger app was dumb, but its simple and serves a purpose.
Web apps arent going to take off, for some reason they just dont seem to have the same responsiveness as opposed to native apps.
Reply · · September 29 at 6:13am
Spyros Heniadis · Top Commenter · Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin
If this is a replacement for their shoddy mobile apps, I just hope it performs better than the excuse of an app I've been using. The mobile experience is currently my least favorite part of facebook. I'll go to my computer and boot it up before I'll pull the phone out of my pocket to check facebook right now.
Reply · · September 29 at 5:49am
DeeAnn DeZarn · Top Commenter
The fun part: read the core concepts Social Design section at: developers.facebook.com/socialdesign/ to understand how all that shit has changed since college where we kinda defined ourselves first. Like, umm, that seems to be the real secret, right, but they left that page up and running so like read it? And feel awkward.
Reply · · September 28 at 11:00pm
Dave Land · San Jose, California
Well, it is _social_ media, after all. Defining yourself is good to do, but perhaps Facebook's "outside-in", community-first approach gets at something we've been missing in our highly individualized society, especially in the USA. It seems absurd to imagine it (given that Facebook's main goal as a corporation is to make loads of money from advertising), but there is at least a chance that services Facebook could help us figure out how to put community first in our thinking.
Futurist author David Brin uses the initialism IAAMOAC (I Am A Member of a Civilization) as a to remind us that we exist as individuals in a larger context that must be taken into account. I don't know if I buy the dichotomy of individualism "versus" collectivism, but our actions have consequences along the continuum from one to the other. We'd do well to take the community into consideration a bit more often.
Yeah, it's absurd. But a boy can dream…
Reply · · September 29 at 11:00am
Andrew Brackin · Top Commenter
This is very nice indeed, HTML5 rules. I think Facebook could target a whole new market with this as well as the app platform. I know lots of smartphone users (usually cheaper brands, not iOS but Blackberry or Android) which don't use the Facebook app but use the web browser.
Reply · · September 28 at 10:32pm
Gerry Curry · Yarmouth, Nova Scotia
That would be because the mobile app. like most mobile apps, SUCKS! I have no need or intention of learning yet another interface. I want Facebook on Safari on my iPad, EXACTLY as it is on my Mac... NO changes. Don't use any apps, don't play any games, don't want to. I just want to keep in contact with my friends.
Reply · · September 29 at 4:07am
Josiah J. Wood · Concordia Lutheran Junior - Senior High School
My prediction would be its released by Mark on Tuesday at the iPhone event. He's probably been rehearsing with the Apple execs, which could also explain why Mark's keynote seemed more Apple-like at F8.
Reply · · September 29 at 12:41pm
Nitin Bansal · Mobile MMI Software Engineer - II at Samsung India Electronics Pvt Ltd.
y should I bother buyin' a facebook phone whn I already have options of Android, iphone, windows phone 7, and blackberry that can do nything dat facebook wud do...........probably much more :P
Reply · · September 29 at 12:50pm
Spencer Tom Tafadzwa Chirume · University of Greenwich
Facebook needs a consistent look and feel across all platform so it really sucks to be me using it directly on a WAP like device or what have you. It's a good thing as long, most users don't use smart phones "globally".
Reply · · September 28 at 10:33pm
Thomas Woolnough · Works at Google
Have you checked out 'Betina-Test Chan-Martin' who you can see sneak into those screenshots? Friends with Oscar Wile E. Cat, Harvey Bent (and Harvey Kent), Young Hulugan and Pharoah Munch? What are Hulu up to? :)
Reply · · September 28 at 11:59pm
Audiosoft Net
why use that dinky web app when with shelf3d.com you can browse all your Facebook friend photos fullscreen without having to click for the next photo.
Reply · · September 29 at 9:38pm
Paul Miranda · Top Commenter
Whether one is on iOS, Android, or WP7, why would anyone go to Facebook for apps? When there there are hundreds of thousands of apps available in the App Store, Market, and run natively in your device..
Reply · · September 29 at 4:05am
Frank Wright
facebook needs to Fix a Glich in al its upgrades its made cause right now, not only your friends can see your facebook wall but nonfriends can too.
Reply · · September 29 at 2:56pm
Deanna Lawrence
The most significant disruption to advertising and marketing is a process not a platform.
Reply · · September 29 at 12:13pm
Patrick Edward Neiler · Vice President at Life Preceptor, LLC
The most significant disruption to advertising and marketing is a product that advertises and markets itself. Facebook app's allow you to do that because if the product is a significant experience in the persons life, they will promote it and share it.
Reply · · September 29 at 1:00pm
Deanna Lawrence
Extending a brand experience via an App is a perfect example of the process...Creating a cycle-of-courtesy. Go Bills!
Reply · · September 29 at 2:39pm
Greg Gerber · San Francisco, California
I don't understand why there's chrome? This dosnt appear to tie in with the FB native mobile apps like I was hoping it would.
Reply · · September 28 at 10:48pm
Michael A. Robson · Top Commenter · Shanghai, China
It runs in Safari. This is not an app.
Reply · · September 29 at 2:47am
Ravi Sheth · Top Commenter · Garfield High School, Garfield, NJ
when is project make money starting.
Reply · · September 29 at 12:08am
Moe James · Top Commenter
Has everyone saw the Google plus girl video? hahahah! I love it! http://www.mediafileshare.com/video/2087
Reply · · September 29 at 3:19am
Sean Blanchfield · Top Commenter
Meh.
Reply · · September 28 at 11:08pm
Luis Diaz
wheres the self-destruct button ?
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