Zsolt Vasvari · Top Commenter · Owner at AnMoney Pte Ltd
"Should Samsung see a victory, Apple and Samsung won’t be the only affected parties. Both SK Telecom and KT, Korea’s largest mobile carriers, will feel a loss if the iPhone 5 gets banned. As will many South Koreans who have been waiting just as eagerly as we have for the next-gen iPhone."
How come you haven't spoken up for the German customers who have been waiting eagerly for the Samsung tablets.
Reply · 23 · · September 19 at 6:38am
rockbandmidi (signed in using Yahoo)
All 5 guys bought a $99 touchpad instead... Eagerly awaiting the android port...
Reply · 5 · · September 19 at 7:36am
Evan Morris · Owner at Orange Leaf Kentucky
Korea is Samsung's only chance of winning against Apple. They know the legal landscape and who to bribe. We've seen it over and over again with Samsung. This one will be interesting.
Reply · 3 · · September 19 at 7:15am
Diganta Sarkar · Top Commenter · Works at Expedia
Korea is their low-hanging fruit, that shouldn't mean they're toothless everywhere else.
Reply · · September 19 at 10:08am
Bob Smith · Works at United States Marine Corps
Thank you for your impressive notion that Samsung bribes...really? And where/how do you know that this is seen over and over again? You must be in the legal system there right? Have you considered the fact that Samsung is major company in Korea as Ford or Boeing is to U.S. or Sony/Toyota is to Japan in terms of their national identity and how it impacts their respective economies? Any company that is capable of defending or has the slightest desire to succeed would take a similar stance. You must know that selling Orange Yogurts though right?
Reply · 7 · · September 19 at 12:23pm
Frank Guillen · Top Commenter · Graphic Designer at VDi Estudio
Samsung is a loser, it loses Apple business, it loses in Germany and in Australia and much of Samsung patents are not totally enforceable, Apple will pay for those patents, but Samsung is banned in Germany and Australia and if everything looks fugly for HTC, those same patents will be applied to Samsung, so Samsung will loose a lot more. Why doesn't Samsung launch a totally different tablet design and end this mess. If I were a Samsung shareholder, I will be kicking Samsung's CEO ass, losing 7 billions is a shame for everybody, even for Samsung.
Reply · 2 · · September 19 at 6:43am
David Smith
Yeah, they should make a different design! Like, a round tablet! Or a triangle shaped tablet! So innovative!
Reply · 8 · · September 19 at 6:56am
Dan Halford · Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
But if Samsung's patents are valid, the choice on whether to license them is entirely Samsung's. Samsung could (legally) choose to license them at minimal cost to HTC, Googorola, Nokia, etc. and simply refuse - point blank - to allow Apple to use them. Or, set the licensing fees at a truly astronomical level (i.e. 50% of Apple's capital value).
Apple's increasingly litigious nature - especially over patents that amount to little more than the physical characteristics of a device - is really ugly, and it should be brutally clear to any half-way neutral party that this sort of patent litigation serves only to hinder and discourage innovation.
Reply · 8 · · September 19 at 7:04am
Brad Dwyer · Top Commenter · Founder, CEO at Hatchlings Inc.
Dan Halford - that is not true. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair,_reasonable,_and_non-discriminatory_terms
Reply · 1 · · September 19 at 7:34am
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Dan Halford · Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
Why wait for it to land in Korea? If Samsung are so sure of the validity of their wireless patents, they should file suit in every country that Apple plans to launch the iPhone 5 in. Oh, and file suit about three weeks before the launch date seeking an injunction against the sale of the offending items, just as Apple's done with the Galaxy Tab.
Reply · 2 · · September 19 at 6:58am
Diganta Sarkar · Top Commenter · Works at Expedia
They didn't say that they won't do it :) the "Unnamed person" was probably talking about what he knows.
Reply · · September 19 at 9:52am
Ivan Diaz · Kwantlen Polytechnic University
If they succeed in Korea odds are they will have the confidence and experience to do it elsewhere. I personally back Samsung, what Apple did in Germany was a low blow and it's about time someone directly challanges Apples iPhone 'madness'.
Reply · · September 21 at 8:46am
Phil Oliver
Then Samsung loses the sale of parts to each iPhone not sold in Korea, as well as Apple ultimately replacing Samsung with other suppliers or their own manufacturing. Pretty costly and futile attempt at "payback".
Reply · 2 · · September 19 at 7:12am
Jairus Knudsen · Network Administrator at City of McCall
I disagree, there are so much demand for the oem parts by other companies, I'm sure other manufacturers can fill the void.
Reply · 1 · · September 19 at 8:12am
Michael A. Robson · Top Commenter · Shanghai, China
I'm pretty sure Apple is going with Taiwan Semi for chips now.
Reply · 1 · · September 19 at 9:13am
Diganta Sarkar · Top Commenter · Works at Expedia
That'll anyway happen - you can't source your parts from your major competitor ...
Reply · · September 19 at 10:08am
Jason Kichline · Messiah College
I I were Apple, I wouldn't even bother launching to that peninsula. Treat them like Adobe. Call them out and tell them to shape up. They have a Chinese market now so why bother with Korea?
Reply · 2 · · September 19 at 7:05am
Jacob Nichols · Greeter at Bahama Breeze
Apple sold 60k units on the first day in Korea in 2009, at $200 a pop that's 12 million, in one day. Flash on a smartphone may not be "magical," but it is practical. For those of us living in reality, practicality and the freedom to use our phones the way we want is worth everything.
Reply · · September 19 at 1:30pm
Alan Pang · Los Angeles, California
Jacob Nichols - I agreed. It's about the freedom of having feature.
Reply · · September 21 at 10:54pm
Da Instrumentalz · Top Commenter · Artist at Rare Find Recordings
It's bad enough that Washington can't get along. Now we got these big corporations fighting. Enough with all this patent fighting, just work out a price and let us enjoy your product(s) - a damn shame.
Reply · 1 · · September 19 at 6:40am
Ivan Diaz · Kwantlen Polytechnic University
Enjoy the show! So long as they don't start nuking their corporate skyscrapers and sending private armies over seas to war with each other.
Reply · · September 21 at 8:41am
Steve Kellener · Top Commenter
Samsung going after the iPhone 5 in a nutshell....
Ripley: These people are here to protect you. They're soldiers.
Newt: It won't make any difference.
Reply · 1 · · September 19 at 8:26am
Michael A. Robson · Top Commenter · Shanghai, China
Awesome. Sorry to hear Koreans won't get the iPhone 5. Maybe they can import them from Mainland China.
Reply · 1 · · September 19 at 9:12am
Alan Pang · Los Angeles, California
I think Apple did the right thing. For so many years, many companies keep copying Apple's design, from the first iMac, Powerbook, Macbook, iPod, iPhone... almost everything. Apple fight so hard from a nearly bankrupt company. Now, they have the cash and it's time to make the wake up call to warn other companies.
Reply · · September 21 at 10:44pm
Diganta Sarkar · Top Commenter · Works at Expedia
Every comment and the article assumes that Samsung doesn't have enough good quality patents to survive or hit back on Apple. I just got a feeling that it could be wrong. Samsung has a big wireless patents portfolio and they are acquiring a more... so, Apple should have calculated upfront before going forward with legal assault. In my view, if there are 10 IPads sold, so would be hardly 1 Galaxy tab... so, if Samsung is banned from 10 markets - the loss would be equivalent to Apple in terms of losing 1 markets. Samsung should now start a full scale legal war as they have nothing to lose (I believe they've already lost parts deal)...
Reply · · September 19 at 9:58am
Mark Pettersson · Vancouver, British Columbia
So, in Korea, Samsung has all patents on "mobile telecommunications functions"? WTF? Some free trade. This is obviously one of those "non-tariff" barriers that asian countries use to exclude American products.
Reply · · September 20 at 7:24am
Selorm Nelson · Works at Freelance Web Designer and developer
what's the deal with this Patent thing..why not the inventor of touch screen technology sue both of them for using such technology. They should just cooperate and develop good gadgets.
Reply · · September 19 at 7:28am
Nana Ghartey
Technology is becoming worse than politics. Hmmm
Reply · · September 20 at 4:50am
Ivan Diaz · Kwantlen Polytechnic University
Nana Ghartey It's better! All the drama, arguing, and political hooplah with none of the killing!
Reply · · September 21 at 8:47am
Rahul Roy
samsung will file a patent lawsuit against apple in korea?
Reply · · September 19 at 12:00pm
red.radish (signed in using Yahoo)
I offcially declare... WHO FUCKING CARES?
Reply · · September 19 at 12:25pm
Jared Helbig · Beaverton, Oregon
Because this artcle was not related to Germany.
Reply · · September 19 at 9:33am
Tundey Akinsanya · Top Commenter · George Mason
This is madness!
Reply · · September 19 at 7:24am
KyungIn Jung · Venture Capitalist at LB Investment
아.. 아이폰5 못사게될 수도 있겠네ㅠㅠ 막상 한국 법원에서 삼송이랑 붙으면 삼송편들어주고 싶지만 아이폰5는 포기하기 힘든데..
Reply · 5 · · September 19 at 8:41am
Kyujin Lee · 성균관대학교
테크크런치 기사에 한글로 코멘트를 달다니...ㅋㅋㅋ
Reply · · September 19 at 8:51am
Eunjoo Lee
앗. 영어다.. 길다...
Reply · · September 19 at 8:56am
Harry Bergeron
ㅋㅋ원안 사름들은 could still get unlocked iphones
Reply · 1 · · September 19 at 9:54am
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Bill Addison · Digital Designer & Web Strategy at Dog and Pony Studios
"Payback" aside, Samsung should be thinking strategically here. Banning the iPhone 5, a popular phone backed by high public anticipation and without any substitute given it runs on iOS, would probably not go over well for public perception of Samsung if they were to win in South Korea.
Understandably Samsung must be frustrated, but they should look to alternative means of payback such as a better or more innovative product. Something that will get the public on their side and something that people can't live without.
Whether or not Samsung has copied Apple is obviously debatable and realistically we all copy each other to some extent, it's the human condition to evolve based on past knowledge. Mashable's historical comparison through product images is pretty insightful:
http://mashable.com/2011/06/18/samsung-apple-comparison/
Reply · 1 · · September 19 at 10:07am
Krzysztof Pasich · Top Commenter · Uniwersytet Ekonomiczny w Katowicach
If Apple didn't received much bad press for banning Samsung products, why would Samsung did? Of course some army of Apple fanboys will be furious, but they are not going to buy Samsung products anyway.
Reply · 2 · · September 19 at 12:50pm
Marc Brouwer
or..., it is just a thought.. don't release it in Korea at all?
Reply · 1 · · September 19 at 6:38am
Alvaro Rey · Texas A&M
Yeah... way to punish those Koreans... I guess Samsung is going to be really glad if Apple follows your wise advise.
Reply · 2 · · September 19 at 6:43am
Martijn Donkersloot
I agree Marc!
Reply · · September 19 at 6:46am
Jea-jean Breu · Collombey-Muraz
bonjour et bienvenu a toute et a tous
Reply · · September 19 at 7:07am
Mj Jang · Top Commenter
OMG, WT*, Samsung is trying to block Apple out from Kor! We've just got into the first landing areas for Apple's product, last month, as i know. but How could you do this, SS?! My guess, the landing of iphone 5 plane would be not that easy here cuz of SS's cats and dogs ..
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