Google I/O 2010 - SEO site advice from the experts

Patrick Shampine
Site is down, application error. I couldn't be served.
Reply · 15 · · September 29 at 7:40pm

Emmet Gibney · Top Commenter · Works at CareNetwork
I think this article overloaded their server :)
Reply · 5 · · September 29 at 8:01pm

Mo Ali Yusuf · London Business School
Site is still down
Reply · 2 · · September 29 at 8:12pm

Alexia Tsotsis · Top Commenter · San Francisco, California
Mo Ali Yusuf It takes awhile, but still loads for me.
Reply · 1 · · September 29 at 8:14pm
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David Adams · Seattle, Washington
"in the Vegas analogy I’m Hunter S. Thomson" As your attorney I advise you to take a hit out of mescaline and realize it's spelled Thompson.
Reply · 9 · · September 29 at 11:13pm

Alexia Tsotsis · Top Commenter · San Francisco, California
Love.
Reply · 1 · · September 29 at 11:42pm

Aaron Bird · CEO & Founder at Gividend
Not including stock and bonus makes this data useless. The vast majority of the compensation packages of the companies on that list comes from stock. Particularly for engineers.
Reply · 7 · · September 29 at 7:37pm

Alexia Tsotsis · Top Commenter · San Francisco, California
The salary data must be useful to someone (HR recruiters) or else these companies would be paying employees only in stock.
Reply · 9 · · September 29 at 7:43pm

Ken Yee
lol...I haven't had any stock options be worth anything substantial yet :-P
Reply · · September 30 at 2:59pm

Pavel Senko
how is it better than glassdoor.com?
Reply · 7 · · September 29 at 7:54pm

Rohit Hegde
The figures on Glassdoor are disclosed by the people voluntarily ...while here the site has done some research to come up with the actual figures....that should be it right?
Reply · · September 29 at 10:26pm

Alexia Tsotsis · Top Commenter · San Francisco, California
Rohit Hegde Right.
Reply · 1 · · September 29 at 11:41pm

David Jameson · Top Commenter
I'm not sure if it is more accurate, though. H1Bs are a small portion of the workforce. Also with glassdoor you can see the range of salaries for each position (and it tends to vary by a huge amount!) You can also narrow the search by years of experience. I think that as long as there are a large number of people giving data, then glassdoor will be pretty accurate (although there is always the possibility of selection bias).

Also, the site doesn't seem to be working properly at the moment. If I type google into the company name, it doesn't seem to narrow the results at all. Adding a city doesn't seem to do anything either.
Reply · 1 · · September 30 at 7:50am
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Dennis Clark · Acworth, Georgia
If you are making $86K/yr and working in Silicon Valley, that is like making $30K/yr living in Arkansas. Cost of living is very high in Silicon Valley and other parts of California. If companies are paying over $100K that are based in Silicone Valley area, that is like $45K - $50K in lower cost of living areas.
Reply · 5 · · September 30 at 4:25am

Aaron Kinsman · Houston, Texas
you can take the experience from, let's say google to create your own company, or to use it as a booster for other jobs in the future. Also, they treat their employees like Kings and Queens due to the need to hold on to the most valuable members of the tech world. Also, as certain people have said above, the stock options I'm sure are phenomenal.
Reply · · September 30 at 7:13am

Folasimi Alamudun · Texas A&M
Aaron Kinsman The stock options are not limited to silicon valley. You are right, its a good place to start and it looks good on your resume. Other than that, anything less than 120k anywhere in California = 50k in Texas or other places. In Sili-valley its worth even less...
Reply · · September 30 at 8:05am

Elliot Thomas Hayes · Berkeley
Youre off a bit. Salary.com says employers in Little Rock pay only ~26% less than in San Francisco. So your $86K/yr in SF pays more like $64K/yr in Arkansas. The part that is upsetting though is Arkansas cost of living is 46% less than SF. End of the day you get a lot more bang for your buck but then again you would be living in Arkansas :-).
Reply · 2 · · September 30 at 9:19am
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Vadim Berman · Top Commenter
"...people who want to make crazy shit" Unfortunately, not anymore. More like "...people who want to make crazily overhyped shit that does next to nothing". 1990s brought the internet, VoIP, instant messaging, social networks, heaps of other stuff. What about the last 3-4 years? Twitter / Groupon? Ah yes, Color and Box.net.
Reply · 3 · · September 30 at 1:15am

Jeremy Martin
Mobile?
Reply · · September 30 at 11:52am

Vadim Berman · Top Commenter
If by "mobile" you mean mobile communications, then no. I had a mobile phone 11 years ago. If by "mobile" you mean Angry Birds and Facebook apps which MG is so obsessed with, then it is exactly my point.
Reply · · September 30 at 6:28pm

Matthieu Fourcade · SolidWorks
what about Glassdoor and WhatSalary.com?
I am surprise Techcrunch publish something about this website that add really little value compare to other competitors...
Reply · 2 · · September 30 at 10:09am

Matt Lawson · Top Commenter
Hmmm....seems some Javascript - PHP - Mysql error- I notice on mouse-hover the form field Search Company -
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No matches!
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Some other odd glitches related to mouse click or on-hover in a DIV table.
Reply · 1 · · September 30 at 7:23am

Frantzdy Samael Romain · Top Commenter · CEO & Founder at Nuveno.com
really. they better watch out for the script kiddies lol
Reply · · September 30 at 7:33am

Matt Lawson · Top Commenter
Frantzdy Samael Romain Was just amused thats all.....Just curious what is a real coder in terms of web development? What would you use to develop a site like Techcompanypay? If you dont use a SQL db and you dont use scripting of any kind what would you use? Just curious. I like Python myself but this site was created in PHP. I guess I dont know how to create a web application without scripting. I guess im a kiddie and you are the expert software developer so would love your advice. Thanks in advance :-) lol
Reply · · September 30 at 9:47am

Alpesh Darji · Project Manager at Route 66, LLC
SAME HERE

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Reply · · September 30 at 9:56am
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Mark Pettersson · Vancouver, British Columbia
I find the salaries pretty low. Matt Damon is looking to pay public school teachers 125 k. Police officers make more than googlers
Reply · 1 · · September 30 at 7:56am
t_manifest (signed in using Yahoo)
If you get lucky, you could find yourself in a beautiful house. Five bedrooms, five poopers, pool, for only $7 million.
Reply · 1 · · September 30 at 7:42am

Alpesh Darji · Project Manager at Route 66, LLC
Many bugs are present. Poor QA
Reply · 1 · · September 30 at 9:58am

Roberto Inetti · Lead Developer at Funimation Entertainment
Im having a sql error on the very first page.
Reply · · September 30 at 12:43pm

Alexy Khrabrov
It's unfortunate when profanities are used in business stories, doubly so for a woman. Exercise for the editors: rephrase without "shit." Doable?
Reply · · September 30 at 12:17pm

Hua Zhong · Top Commenter · San Jose, California
This may not prove how generous (or stingy) the companies are. This may just show which companies hire better people that are worth more.
Reply · · September 29 at 9:08pm

Hina Naz · Top Commenter
Tactic to approach more business :-) Anyway gud one will surely overload as Emmet Gibney said below..
Reply · · September 30 at 1:51am

Robert Boyle · Top Commenter · Brooklyn, New York
I feel like using H1B records is a pretty clever way to find reputable, accurate salary data. +1
Reply · · September 29 at 9:26pm

Pavel Senko
I don't agree.
H1B positions are usually underpaid and don't have the same benefits comparing to other employees.
Reply · 3 · · September 29 at 9:30pm

Nikola Jevtic · Top Commenter · Marina del Rey, California
Pavel Senko Does not apply to software engineers in the valley. Good guys are not in the job market at all. You want to make sure that they are happy once you find them and hire them.
Reply · · September 29 at 10:15pm

Pavel Senko
Nikola Jevtic I have examples, which contradict your theory.
For instance, I know a guy who is earning ~$80K / year and is an excellent software engineer with 6+ years of experience (Java + LAMP + Flash). Similar non-H1B peers get at least $110-120K / year.
Reply · · September 30 at 4:58pm

Mircea Goia · Universitatea Spiru Haret Bucuresti
Techcrunch, destroyer of the worlds (sites) :)...
Reply · · September 30 at 12:18pm

Nick Fleker Felker · Top Commenter
If prices really are that high, I'd be glad to get any job in the valley.
Reply · · September 30 at 12:34pm
rustybarnhill_firefold (signed in using Yahoo)
I wonder how much a good working environment is valued at?
Reply · · September 30 at 12:22pm

Buntu Redempter · Top Commenter · Burien, Washington
How is Twitter paying more than anyone when it doesn't even make big cash?
Reply · · September 29 at 9:07pm

Nikola Jevtic · Top Commenter · Marina del Rey, California
Its called venture capital. Provides $100M for almost any silly idea. These days anyways.
Reply · 3 · · September 29 at 10:16pm

Joe Tweets · Top Commenter · Redmond, Washington
Nikola Jevtic Except Twitter ain't no "silly idea"...
And btw, they are increasing their revenues exponentially – it's estimated that by 2013 they'll have a revenue of $400m.
Reply · 2 · · September 29 at 11:27pm

Aaron Kinsman · Houston, Texas
You have to understand that these businesses are doing everything they can to recruit the toppest of the top talent in silicon valley. But if you're Google, you don't necessarily have to spit out the cash because the google environment, like apple, is more pleasing than the pay.
Reply · · September 30 at 7:22am
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Amrit Kirpalani · Works at Zuuzs
Site is taking a while to load but data like this is super helpful!
Reply · · September 29 at 7:53pm

Marcelo Moyano
we are talking about yearly incomes here... right? :)
Reply · · September 29 at 7:57pm

Alexia Tsotsis · Top Commenter · San Francisco, California
Right.
Reply · · September 29 at 8:15pm

Sam Wallis
Per day, silly.
Reply · 9 · · September 29 at 11:03pm

Ivan Camilo Vásquez Güiza · Top Commenter · Future Technology Engineer at PLATAFOR.MA
Sam Wallis Ain't so silly. In other countries we're used to think salaries by month, not by year.
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Moronkreacionz In · Mumbai, Maharashtra
Developer seemed too tied up to make the application bug free :(

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Reply · · September 30 at 10:04am

Amitj Aggar
Sounds too low. I would easily put google 50% higher.
Reply · · September 29 at 8:18pm

David Stone · Durham, North Carolina
Friend that worked at Google echo that its a tad lower than you would expect.
Compensated by the perks. If you get highly motivated people who love what
they do and you treat them well you can pay them less.
Reply · 2 · · September 29 at 8:33pm

Amitj Aggar
David Stone That is why I quit. If you are a good engineer in the valley, your true worth is $150+K + stock. Do not sign on for anything less, irrespective of how good the food or the massages!
Reply · 7 · · September 29 at 8:55pm

Francesco Sullo · Top Commenter
I think that the amounts reported are average salaries. There is the top engineer, but also the customer service operator, and so on.
Reply · · September 29 at 9:10pm
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Felipe Adams · Top Commenter · Jobs, Cellphones, Music & Deals at Digitalundivide.com
Tech companies such as Microsoft, Apple and AT&T have job openings for professionals and interns. The salaries are good. http://pnoy.me/ea
Reply · · September 29 at 11:59pm

Felipe Adams · Top Commenter · Jobs, Cellphones, Music & Deals at Digitalundivide.com
AT&T has a lot of job openings for Student Intern I. http://pnoy.me/ea
Reply · · September 30 at 12:36am

Dongsung Huang
I envy them in the top five tech companies.
Reply · 2 · · September 29 at 9:32pm