Donnacha Mac Gloinn · Top Commenter · Owner at WordSkill.com
Frustrating for users but a very smart move by Facebook - they are possibly the only company in the world with enough leverage to persuade Apple to change its famously non-negotiable 30% rule.
Reply · 12 · · September 26 at 11:40am
Danny Jeffries · Missouri State University
I am not sure if Apple would waiver, but Facebook seems to be Apple's main competitor in the future especially if Facebook can implement music correctly.
Reply · 1 · · September 26 at 11:54am
James Molinaro
30% rule? Facebook already has an iOS app and this is a free app for a non-paid service. I'm a little perplexed by your reasoning. Could you elaborate a little more about how Facebook would be subjected to Apple's 30% cut?
Reply · 17 · · September 26 at 12:06pm
Derek Jensen · Top Commenter · Founder at Resimplify
I think its more about the future of having the same experience across all platforms which is what Project Spartan promises for them.
Reply · 1 · · September 26 at 12:12pm
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David Nguyen · Top Commenter
You and Paul (and I'm pretty sure Paul already will) need to start writing for "Uncrunched" So I can finally stop reading this site :)
Reply · 10 · · September 26 at 12:02pm
Jason Carr · Top Commenter
Given all the changes they're (Facebook) rolling out it makes sense to wait on the new app to incorporate all the new stuff. Maybe that's what the hold up is...
Reply · 5 · · September 26 at 11:41am
Max Woolf · Top Commenter · Carnegie Mellon University
That's the most likely explination. They need to implement Timeline, Ticker, and Subscriptions in the mobile apps too. Might as well hit everything in one go.
Reply · 3 · · September 26 at 11:43am
Michael Everts · Server at Outback Steakhouse
Max Woolf This. You can't even see Timeline in the old app they have, but it is viewable in the Safari browser. The interface is very slow though, and looks like shit.
Reply · · September 26 at 12:33pm
James Molinaro
I see what you mean but why wait when you have a user base >10M strong armed with iPads why hold it up even more while they switch the layout. My only reasoning for this would be the amount of either bugs or extensive api changes that would need to be made in order to use. Everyday this goes without being released they loose money to other app developers advertising on their own Facebook app knockoffs.
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Jarland Donnell · Server Administrator at Catalyst Host
I think it has been a poor choice on Facebook's part to ignore the iPad platform. All opinions and preferences aside, the iPad is the tablet market, and that market is anything but small. Although I will say that iPad users are using Facebook anyway, the whole "we don't need to cater to you because you need us anyway" attitude leaves customers with a sour taste in their mouths and they'll be very quick to leave you behind when decent competition comes along. Just ask Microsoft why they haven't seen my money in years, even though they don't need it, there will come a day when they do. This could, however, be exciting news for Google.
Reply · 3 · · September 26 at 1:20pm
Wayne Smallman · Manging Director at Octane Interactive Limited
... and the whole article then descends into random wild speculation. Stick to the story, Seigler, there's a good lad.
Reply · 2 · · September 26 at 11:50am
Max Woolf · Top Commenter · Carnegie Mellon University
Maybe he'll get drinks with Joe Hewitt and reminisce about the old times developing iOS Facebook Apps...
Reply · 2 · · September 26 at 11:38am
Jeff Kibuule · Top Commenter · Houston, Texas
I feel like the Facebook iPhone app turned to shit when Joe left. It's just not the same anymore...
Reply · · September 26 at 11:54am
Shahreaz Sohel
Facebook to Launch iPad App at Apple’s iPhone 5 Event: http://mashable.com/2011/09/26/facebook-ipad-app-iphone-app-exclusive/.
Reply · 1 · · September 26 at 2:56pm
Scott Goss · Top Commenter · Play games at Retired
so what why leave a job people need jobs and u cant suck it up a just work lmao.
Reply · 1 · · September 26 at 2:15pm
Moe James · Top Commenter
Developers Alert! If you own or admin. or even have a favorite Fanpage, then this concerns you. FB Official documentation states, that If you don't comply by Oct 1.(developers) FB Fans are not going to be able to view your content. You may have noticed a dropoff in traffic, lately already. Read full story: http://dld.bz/fbrudeawakening.
Reply · · September 28 at 10:04am
Scott Cropper · San Diego, California
This could have more to do with timeline and the other changes announced at f8. Rather than release an iPad version only to have to turn right around and change it all in a matter of months probably put it on the back burner while they finished timeline. In the meantime they are fine with users just using Safari on the iPad to access the site as its intended with the new features present.
Reply · · September 26 at 12:36pm
James Gee Gunaca · Top Commenter · San Francisco, California
I don't think that logic makes sense. The iPhone app doesn't have any of these new features embedded in it and they're not about to pull that app.
"We'll wait until 'x' is ready before releasing the iPad app" could leave us without a native iPad app forever because of how quickly facebook innovates and brings new features to their users.
Reply · · September 26 at 3:55pm
Scott Cropper · San Diego, California
The iPhone app was already out there and the experience will always be a bit limited due to screen size. If timeline was making progress and was going to change everything then why would they release the iPad version months before if it would just need changing? It now looks like the plan is to announce it Oct. 4th - http://mashable.com/2011/09/26/facebook-ipad-app-iphone-app-exclusive/ - be interesting to see if its about the same as the leaked views we've seen or includes some timeline like views.
Reply · · September 26 at 4:16pm
James Gee Gunaca · Top Commenter · San Francisco, California
Scott Cropper now THAT would be an excuse to delay - to get the spotlight at an Apple event where new hardware is announced!
Reply · · September 26 at 4:41pm
John Harrington Jr. · Dickinson
If you’re interested in hearing more details on the confirmed Oct. 4 iPhone media day (including a tidbit about the Facebook iPad app release) and want a sample of what the new iPhone will be like, read here: http://bit.ly/oc3uuP.
Reply · · September 27 at 10:37am
Tablet2Cases
For Facebook to lose a disgruntled employee to no other than Google is a statement in itself. Kinda curious that both companies seem to be operating by the same type of people. Makes you wonder if FB and Google are corporate clones of some sort.
Reply · · September 27 at 8:12am
Robin Ragle-Davis · Wareham, Massachusetts
I access facebook on my ipad using Safari. It gives me the same experience I get in my desktop browser with the exception of anything having to do with Flash. In fact the only reason I would ever download an extra app to access facebook on my ipad would be to view video. I wonder if integration with Flash embedded video was hold up?
Reply · · September 26 at 12:15pm
Jarland Donnell · Server Administrator at Catalyst Host
I doubt it. Isn't Facebook already encoding in h264 for iPhones? Even if not, I don't expect people would hold higher expectations for the iPad being the same OS.
Reply · · September 26 at 3:03pm
James Gee Gunaca · Top Commenter · San Francisco, California
You have to admit, though, that dealing with Facebook.com in Safari is kind of a pain in the ass. The site is not designed with touch in mind. Very difficult to tap various UI elements, some are hidden unless you 'rollover' them which is not an action the iPad handles. I could go on, but I won't. It's all been said before.
Reply · · September 26 at 3:56pm
Robin Ragle-Davis · Wareham, Massachusetts
James Gee Gunaca You are absolutely right about the difficulty regarding touch and rollovers.
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George Tinari · Top Commenter · Notre Dame High School
I knew it had to be because of the strained relationship between Apple and Facebook. How about they put their differences aside and think of the consumers? We are in desperate need for an iPad app. There's a near-complete one waiting to be released. So just release it already.
Reply · · September 26 at 12:24pm
Justin Kramp · Top Commenter · Web Producer at Sprint
I for one welcome the wild speculation. Keeps things interesting. Was shocked to find there wasn't an iPad optimized FB app/experience, after having such a terrific FB app experience on my HP TouchPad. Decisions like that aren't made lightly.
Reply · · September 26 at 11:56am
Shehryar Siddiqi · Top Commenter · Communications Consultant at Independent
The delay most likely has to do with the big changes that were rolled out at F8. The leaked images of the iPad app don't show a Ticker or Timeline. I'm fine with it. With the pent up demand for FB's iPad app, its in their best interest to get it right the first time and wow us the way they did at F8.
Reply · · September 26 at 1:16pm
Adam Valentine · Chicago, Illinois
Project Spartan always makes me think of MSU, our Little Brother to the north. I hope said project is way better than a mediocre party school in Michigan that plays second fiddle to another university.
Reply · · September 26 at 11:40am
Katie Swartzloff · Chicago, Illinois
I can't wait for the fb on this one.
Reply · · September 26 at 12:00pm
Katie Swartzloff · Chicago, Illinois
*fb argument
Reply · · September 26 at 12:00pm
Jacquelyn Boswell Rank · Detroit, Michigan
I just think it's rude. It's one thing to be proud of the school you attended and it's another thing completely to make fun of other schools.
Reply · · September 26 at 12:25pm
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Josh Boulton · King Edward's School
If I were them I'd release it shortly after iOS5 with it's Twitter integration. Just to pull anyone back who was switching to Twitter.
Reply · · September 27 at 9:26am
Anirudh Chhabria · Montgomery Upper Middle School
Facebook definitely has to go out and release the app because the number of iPads out there are growing rapidly.
Reply · · September 27 at 8:13am
Oh no, my G-mail is dead
I hadn't looked at the author before reading the article, and when I was done I thought "oh, this must be a piece by MG".
Then I checked. I shouldn't have.
Reply · · September 26 at 11:39am
Phillip Burch · Android/Windows Phone/HTML5 Developer at American Airlines
This is why app stores suck. HTML5 is ridiculously important to the open and unregulated world that we've all grown accustom to.
Reply · · September 26 at 12:16pm
Joey Kaibelf Yokubaitis · Top Commenter
Yes, because websites can ALWAYS be trusted......
Reply · · September 26 at 12:46pm
Phillip Burch · Android/Windows Phone/HTML5 Developer at American Airlines
Joey Kaibelf Yokubaitis Not really sure what your trying to say...
Reply · · September 26 at 1:29pm
Jarrod Whaley
Let's remember that HTML5 apps don't have access to sensors, cameras, etc. App stores do not suck.
Reply · · September 26 at 3:24pm
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Brandon Caudill · Noblesville, Indiana
Check your info on his departure to Google. His LinkedIn reads he joined Nimbus.
Reply · · September 27 at 6:28am
Roberto Valerio · Top Commenter · Hamburg, Germany
Could it be Facebook is working on a tablet?
Reply · · September 26 at 11:50am
Aviraj Saluja · Photographer at AvirajSaluja.com | Photography
Way to kill a guy's blog, TC.
Reply · · September 26 at 12:37pm
Jean-Claude Frick
So bad for us iPad Users. They should release this App ASAP i hate using Facebook with Safari on the iPad
Reply · 1 · · September 26 at 12:32pm
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