Andy Pad Prototypes

HoosierDaddy757 10 hours ago
Why not just tell your kids "NO" and make it stick?
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Dampfire 1 day ago
I'm sorry but I have extreme difficulty using anything called an Andy Pad.
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Jordaan Mylonas 2 days ago
Thank you Amazon for killing the bad bargain options. Now every bargain tablet has to answer "How is this better than a Kindle Fire for $200?".
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CalvinBreseman 2 days ago
Just get a kindle fire instead
http://m.digg.com/news/technol...
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Leonard Washington 2 days ago
Typical British product ;). Just like the cars of Britain's old. Great, lovable, bricky, inexpensive but not without build quality faults :D
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Ben B 2 days ago
Crazy expensive for something "expendable," the Kindle Fire is going to pretty much kill this thing anyway. I was thinking more of something super rugged and cheap like the One Laptop Per Child laptop.
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Phil E. Drifter 2 days ago
This is why I don't have any CROTCHFRUIT!
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geepat 2 days ago
I just can't bring myself to like that.. thing. It's so.. undesirable.
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AnaIvanovic2 2 days ago
If anyone's interested in what the OEM version is actually called, it's a Teclast T760. It's internals are exactly the same, even the exterior, save for the change of badge and prints here and there. You can search it from sites like AliExpress and HotMID.
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Rufus Pearce 2 days ago
*STILL* no removable battery! What's wrong with these manufacturers??
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MacDuda 2 days ago
What's with all the comments about this being really budget for the UK... ?
You can get an 8" archos G9 with honecomb and a lot more better everything for £199
Can't see why one would buy  this.
Or wait a few months and get amazon's Kindle fire thing.
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Ben Millen 2 days ago in reply to MacDuda
yeah i wouldnt buy it, but im not optomistic about the future of the fire over here, we gotta wait for several stupid laws to change for that thing to be legal over here, and although there have been moves recently to change those laws, i dont see it happening in a few months :(
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pple 2 days ago
that's what happens when you buckle to fanboys' demands, Engadget! This review is barren. No score? Can't be bothered to even read review.


Once again, the cool kids rule. Isn't that right?
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lecti 2 days ago
"worth two months pay"


What kind of electronic device for checking emails costs $10,000!?
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Leonard Washington 2 days ago in reply to lecti
They are of course stating that fact according to hipster kid's wages.
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MacDuda 2 days ago in reply to lecti
the ipad 4?
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Victor Major 3 days ago
Been using one under the parent name, Teclast T760 for about 5 months now. I bought it as a disposable device for my kids. It turned out that it was actually very nice to use, and durable.

Regarding the findings in the review, here are my findings after 5 months use.

- Build quality is good.
- There are no problems with the sound jack, buzzing, whatnot. Perhaps they got a dud device, so at worst QC may need tweaking.
- The OS build for the device is mildly tweaked standard SDK from the platform maker Rokchip, and it is updated on a monthly basis.
- Teclast T760 firmwares are available at Teclast, while rooted firmwares also exists with custom ROMs being released on a steady basis. T760 firmware can be flashed to Andypad (but screen orientation is reversed by 270 degrees, can be fixed by tweaking firmware file)
- Gooogle Market 3.1.5 works very well for both paid and free apps
- Interface is sluggish compared to the actual speed of the device, can be fixed by installing alternative launcher. Apparently Firmware v3.0 fixes this issue. I have yet to try it
- Screen is glossy
- There is a world beyond the USA where subsidized (carrier, or manufacturer) devices are not made available so the price is very good given the performance
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Sagiv Hadaya 3 days ago
you call this cheap?
amazon just released a PAD for $199.. now that's a smart move. cheap and strong and they make money off of the services.
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engadger 3 days ago in reply to Sagiv Hadaya
Released?! Amazon did NOT released any tablet at all. Except for the US. I wouldn't use the world "releasing" when a product is not avail for more the 6 billion ppl... It's a very-very limited edition at best!
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engadger 3 days ago in reply to engadger
Andy Pro is also not avail: "NOTICE: The Andy Pad Pro is currently out of stock. All orders will be dispatched as soon as new stock arrives."

http://www.andypad.co.uk/produ...
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Stefan Jobling 3 days ago in reply to Sagiv Hadaya
Please remember that this is a UK price so should include 20% VAT. We in the UK are not blessed with US prices meaning that this is cheap for and android tablet that actually works (although the advent vega another UK exclusive at between £200-230 is a better bet).
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Leonard Washington 2 days ago in reply to Stefan Jobling
VAT blows... We have sales tax. And a lot of British people I see working up at Microsoft on contracts are snatching up all the gadgetry cause our 9% sales tax is nothing compared to 20% VAT lol. Though certain states and cities have higher taxes...
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aqua00 3 days ago
Its white, patent war inc.
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Timothy Williamson 3 days ago
You could buy the Andypad, or look for a few minutes on Craigslist/eBay and find an iPad 1st gen 16GB for around $270-$300 (I bought one for $270 a few months ago).
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Samson Felshman 2 days ago in reply to Timothy Williamson
Yes, go buy an iPad in Europe for $270.
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Timothy Tucker 3 days ago in reply to Timothy Williamson
Please don't compare this to used products. Not everyone likes buying a used electronic device like an ipad, even if it can be had at a similar price. It's nice opening something new and knowing that you're the first owner, and there aren't any potential issues. Having a warranty on your device is nice as well.
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Advancedcaveman 3 days ago
If this is the Andypad Pro I'd hate to see the Andypad Amateur.
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lecti 2 days ago in reply to Advancedcaveman
Andypad noob is a legal pad.
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Leonard Washington 2 days ago in reply to lecti
Andypad Pro - Device above

Andypad Amateur - 3.5' version of the Pro divice running Android 1.6

Andypad Novice - Sticky Notes, Sharpie pen, and Elmars glue...
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Kash 3 days ago in reply to Advancedcaveman
The andypad amateur has a resistive screen.
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Advancedcaveman 3 days ago in reply to Kash
Great!
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Kash 3 days ago
Found this statement from the MD of andypad, dont know if its a big deal or not

Dear Andy Pad customers,As
you may or may not be aware, our first batches of Andy Pads come with
an unlicensed version of Android Marketplace. The statement will explain
the reasoning behind this.

As we all know, it is very important for tablet/mobile devices to have
an App Store installed. The end-user experience can be seriously harmed
if this kind of software is not included, and we went through the normal
routine of acquiring Android Marketplace.

It soon became clear that Android Marketplace is tied up with “Big
Brands” who have strangled the market, making customers choose their
products over smaller brands such as Andy Pad. We felt this was unfair,
not just towards us as a manufacturer, but to the customers that cannot
afford to spend hundreds of pounds on these higher end devices that can
actually be produced for the customer at a much cheaper price. I
therefore took the decision to add an unlicensed version of Android
Marketplace.

There is a David and Goliath situation here, and we felt that we were
doing a favour to the community as well as ourselves. I have spent
millions of pounds on Google AdWords over the years and felt this would
only help Google’s revenue by having Android Marketplace on the Andy Pad
as this would clearly stretch Google’s reach over the market.

I think it is important to note that we intentionally never included
Android Marketplace in our official advertising. We did not want to sell
the devices on the basis that it came with any Marketplace installed.

Our plan is to put Amazon Marketplace on the devices once it is
available. Ideally we would like to see Google’s ‘open-source’ operating
system reach its full potential, and hopefully we have helped them to
achieve that. This is not to be seen as an underhand swipe at Google,
but more an attempt to bring balance to the technology market. We are
still in the process of trying to get Android Marketplace officially
licensed for the Andy Pad.

I would also like to take this opportunity to say thank-you to all the
customers and the community that have supported Andy Pad through its
first launch. We have been blown away by the great response that we have
received from the community and developers alike.

If there is any further news or discussions, rest assured you will know immediately.

Yours Faithfully,

Andrew Kerry
Managing Director
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Timothy Tucker 3 days ago in reply to Kash
If this is true, this could potentially open them up to litigation... not good. That's a shame, because the tablet does seem to be a pretty good buy in the U.K. While it isn't the cheapest tablet available, nor is it's sibling, it still seems to fill in a niche.
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min009 3 days ago
This is a real bargin tablet. LOL
http://armdevices.net/2011/09/...
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milob 3 days ago
One of the older guys at work got one of these for £49 on ebay. He and his wife love it, he's raved about it for a week.
The thing does exactly what he needs (a quick browse on the sofa, a youtube video and a game or two) when he doesn't want to put the desktop pc on. I don't think it's something a lot of people here would consider over some of the higher end tablets available, but it does meet the needs of a large portion of people considering a tablet.
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gweissen 3 days ago
They dare to call it And-yPad and make it white? Apple's lawyers won't like that...
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coder543 3 days ago in reply to gweissen
nobody pronounces it like that. They say Andy-pad. Not and-ypad. and the 'y' is a long 'e' sound.
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KhornePony 3 days ago in reply to gweissen
Black and white like a Panda

http://www.wingnuttoons.com/An...
Attached files

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HektikLyfe 3 days ago
More expensive than the Kindle.  Good luck.
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radarskiy 3 days ago in reply to HektikLyfe
Facts not in evidence. The Kindle FIre si not for sale in the UK yet; the AndyPad Pro is not for sale in the US. There no place where they are priced in a common currency to compare.
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MacGruber! 3 days ago
If you aren't $199 or less you are dead now.
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vc_10 3 days ago in reply to MacGruber!
Our prices are ridiculous compared to the US- it's a bargain for the UK.
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Bubblewhip 3 days ago
Cheap just buys you a hunk of uselessness that will be destroyed in 2 weeks due to bad build. Just buy an otterbox for your $500 tablet.
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Justin Lisenby 3 days ago
Very nice. It's not an iPad killer, but it could beat the crap out of every other Andy tablet out there.
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Laban112 3 days ago in reply to Justin Lisenby
yea true, defintely
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AceRimmer 3 days ago
RIP Andy pad.

You're ports were ugly and your bezel was fat but nice to hold. We will always remember you as the 'could have been' contender.

NEXT!
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Ian Wilson 3 days ago
I have a 7" Galaxy Tab and bought an AndyPad for my GF. I think the AndyPad is as fast as the Galaxy Tab and it's a superb tablet for the money.

In the UK market, it's quite a bargain at the moment and the "Sold out" sign on their website seems to indicate a lot of people have bought them.
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Jamie Blumenfeld 3 days ago
To quote this article: "checking your emails on a shiny new device (worth two months pay)".

Who makes $200 per month?  Unless you are suggesting that a tablet should be compared to a laptop in the $2,000-4,000 range?  I'm pretty sure the meat of that market is still ~$1,000 and I certainly hope any high school graduate can make more than $500 per month.


I'd also point out that at $280 it is barely cheaper than the established competition in the US - I'd probably pop an extra $50-100 to get a brand with some history and therefore likely to have future support if needed. Or a used iPad...

Hyperbole - what engadget writers should use less of.
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randomverbosity 3 days ago in reply to Jamie Blumenfeld
I would imagine the two months pay refers to "play" money left over after things such as bills, groceries, life necessities.
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Ruiz 3 days ago
I really wish they would bring the number system back. That new scorecard isn't telling me shit.
bootak 3 days ago in reply to Ruiz
Can't you read?
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MooseDesign 3 days ago in reply to bootak
If he's interested in the summary its because he may want a brief overview... that's supposedly the point of that sort of feature. Its a busy world and that is a completely expected and appropriate user need. Your impolite comment does neither you, nor the designers and editors of the site any favors to push the design to be more user focused and useful.

And he's right, "some bad design decisions" as a con is so obtuse and vague as to be of practically no value in an overview. And the conclusion further compounds the shades of grey rather than stake out any real position on the device.
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Ruiz 3 days ago in reply to bootak
"Can't you read?"

Are  you ignorant?
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Chris Daltas 3 days ago in reply to Ruiz
Not everyone has time to read every new lame android/honeycomb device that comes to market. From now on only the ones worth reviewing should get reviews. We can assume if Engadget doesn't review it it's not a review worth reading. Like this one.

Amazon Kindle Fire anyone?
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Ruiz 3 days ago in reply to Chris Daltas
I agree, they just really need to re-think the way that they do these reviews. I've never heard of a good review system not having a number or star rating score. In Engadget's reviews and scorecards, the only thing I keep reading over and over again is "This product is great at this, but it's bad at this." WTF does that tell me? They constantly keep trying to balance the pros and cons of every product they review and it's unfair, especially to the finely made products that deserve a better review. If a product is shit, tell me it's shit. Don't go around making a piece of turd look edible, you're fooling nobody Engadget.
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Haithem Obeidi 3 days ago in reply to Ruiz
Anddd a number tells you so much more than a list of pros and cons? It's good that it's balanced out, because everyone weighs the cons and pros differently, to me cheap build quality, no HC and crappy design means a lot more to me than a million pros if it had that many. When they have the number system everyone complains because it's unfair, now it's just unbiased pros and cons and people are still complaining, don't like the review system? Then stop looking at it and find another site that does it better.
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Sharkit 3 days ago in reply to Haithem Obeidi
Engadget removed the numbers because it was killing their hits. If you see a review gets less than 8, you don't even bother clicking on the link. Now they have removed the ratings they get the clicks, even if all you do is scroll to the bottom and read the pro and cons.

As for the Andypad, nice idea, but if it really is a cheap tablet for the kids, then it needs better build quality. And for most people buying something second hand would be a better idea. The Touchpad firesale must've wiped out  half their potential market, and the potential for another with the Playbook isn't going to help them either. Then there's the Kindle Fire, slightly different machine, but in the end for browsing, games, email you are covered and then the goodness of a Kindle, not going to be easy for them when it comes to the UK.
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Ruiz 3 days ago in reply to Haithem Obeidi
In a sense it does. A list of pros and cons doesn't explain anything if they keep balancing it out. If a product is bad, just say it's bad, stop sugar-coating it with good things so that it doesn't seem as bad. If a product is great, then just say it's great, stop trying to find bad things to say about it, especially when those bad things end up being subjective. I know you were being cliche when saying "Don't like the review system? Find another one.", but seeing how bad these reviews have become, it seems like only the best thing to do.
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KrispyInTO 3 days ago
not bad for the price, seems like throwing adw launcher ex is what you need to do for the homescreens
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MooseDesign 3 days ago
Am I the only one that hears the name of this device in their head with a Cockney accent?

Filthy Pleb: Shine yer shoes guvnah? And'y pad, guvnah?
Toff: Why yes it is bootblack... quite handy indeed. Chortle.
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urpert 3 days ago in reply to MooseDesign
+1000.
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cpc464freak 3 days ago
This is a great little Tablet, cheap too, I see no sense in buying a 33% more similar speced 'named' make just for the name.
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curtis2500 3 days ago
This is a fail, the Android Market isn't even licensed version.
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warrengonline 3 days ago
After seeing the video and now knowing I can not sneak up on my pooch to take a photo while she is sleeping.....

If this unit was $50, I'd buy four of them as gift for my nieces and nephews or sisters.

I'm glad Daniel mentioned the squeak.  That's a HUGE no-sale.  Outside of that, the device looks pretty well packaged.
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Jeremy Marrel 3 days ago
I see a lawsuit coming for community design..... Oh wait look its touch too thats a direct violation of yet another patent.. I demand they take it off the shelves and ban sales on this.
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sashank 3 days ago
frankly the 7 and 10 inch have the same amount of bezel and that makes the 7 inch look like stupid.
i had the samsung galaxy tab 7 . and returned it in the first week.
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CityZen 3 days ago in reply to sashank
You need bezel on a touchpad in order to be able to hold it without hitting the touchscreen.
What I like about this device is the raised edge on top; since you have to hold it with the edge of your fingers, this helps prevent it from slipping out of your grasp (when held one-handed).  Devices that have a rounded off top edge make no sense - they want to slip right out of your grasp.
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newreplydotphp 3 days ago
One more for the unsold Android craplets warehouse!

http://imgur.com/DWfVP
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Lucian Armasu 3 days ago
0.8 pounds is 362 grams, which is double the mentioned 180 grams.
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Dan_Cooper 3 days ago in reply to Lucian Armasu
377 according to Google, but thanks for picking up on that.
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Live_and_let_die_2 3 days ago
Doesn't seem like a very cheap price to me.. I only quickly glanced at the pricing, but I think I saw equivalent of $375 for an 8 gb? Not that I need to bring this in here, but an original iPad 16 gb is $400, and a 16 gb iPad 2 will eventually be $400. This needs to go $300 at the most
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evileuropean 3 days ago in reply to Live_and_let_die_2
The price most likley includes 20% vat...also, only fools pay full price for anything. The exchange rate does not help things either, the dollar is still a bit weak.
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Live_and_let_die_2 3 days ago in reply to evileuropean
True.
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jb82 3 days ago in reply to Live_and_let_die_2
ipad  pricesinthe UK are much higher.... UK prices generally are.
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cpc464freak 3 days ago in reply to jb82
Yeah, the UK populous is well fuckin pissed off with it!
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Carlo Atadero 3 days ago in reply to Live_and_let_die_2
http://hotmid.com/teclast-t760...
Its the same exact tablet just a different look. 8
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Carlo Atadero 3 days ago
It's a rebranded Teclast T760. You can get one here http://hotmid.com/teclast-t760... for 219$ with free shipping.

I have one myself, and for somebody who wants a cheap tablet for surfing and casual use it does the job pretty well.
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I had the same issue with the software that was said on the review, but fortunately Teclast is one of the chinese manufacturers that actually care to update firmware on their tablets.

I'm using ADW EX as my launcher and it improves the tablet's responsiveness immensely.

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Duke1983 3 days ago
no mention of the incorrect advertising for the CPU speed (it's locked
to 1Ghz) or the fact the AndyPad's run unlicensed Androidmarket.

Oh and then there's the exploding PSU's, Avoid this tablet.

The online forum support is rubbish. Think before spending any money of these tab's
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MrMafoo 3 days ago
Who throws $200 at their kids?
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davidr521 3 days ago in reply to MrMafoo
Most US consumers, sadly enough...
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BMichaels 3 days ago in reply to MrMafoo
People who have jobs and can afford to do it.
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MrMafoo 3 days ago in reply to BMichaels
I have a job, and I can afford it, but the comment in the article, is this thing is so cheep, you could "throw" it at your kids. It was meant to be a joke about the thing being so cheep, you don't care what happens to it.

I am a top 10% earner in the US, and anything I buy for my kids that cost $200, I care about what happens to it.
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urpert 3 days ago in reply to MrMafoo
*cheap
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BMichaels 3 days ago in reply to MrMafoo
Why? $200 is nothing.
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Curtis Hinton 3 days ago in reply to MrMafoo
Man, when I was a kid I was lucky enough 2 get food in my stomach, clothes on my back, and a roof over my head, and I appreciated it. These kids today are nothing but spoiled, ungrateful, brats. No kid deserves a tablet for any reason; hell I don't even have a tablet and I'm 35 years old!! Whatever happened 2 being grateful if you got a, "speak-and-spell" ??
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Dominic Evans 3 days ago in reply to Curtis Hinton
different times, I'm sure your grand parents or older folks told you how lucky you were and how "easy" you had it when you were younger..different times
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MacGruber! 3 days ago in reply to Curtis Hinton
I was lucky to get clothes in my stomach, food over my head and a roof on my back when I was a kid.
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davidr521 3 days ago in reply to MacGruber!
Uphill, in the snow, both ways.

Barefoot.
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Generalmishmash 3 days ago in reply to MrMafoo
Plenty of people.
Lots of parents buythis sort of junk to shut up the "Dad, I want an iPad". Some even actually buy them an iPad
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newreplydotphp 3 days ago
So does this beat a refurb ipad 1 in any way? It's only $19 cheaper, runs an OS made for phones, and, apparently, has crap build quality. The Pad might even survive kids longer, and they'll definitely have more interest in it, as the iPad has actual tablet apps, including apps aimed at kids.
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lukaszsw 3 days ago in reply to newreplydotphp
Agreed. The only downside I see is that iPad is much heavier which makes it hit the ground harder when dropped. See YouTube video, 7 inch can manage the same drop without a scratch.

Also why not let the kid play with Fire? =)
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Mike R 3 days ago in reply to newreplydotphp
Unless you really have to have Android, you have a good point.
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tastygroove 3 days ago in reply to newreplydotphp
Nope, get the iPad.
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Magog14 3 days ago
Insane that there are still companies shipping tablets without honeycomb. Gingerbread is not a tablet OS and never was meant to be!
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Paul Roberts 3 days ago in reply to Magog14
honeycomb is tegra 2 only and as the source code has not been released the only people who can get it are with google partners, same reason amazon is using gingerbread.
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Generalmishmash 3 days ago in reply to Magog14
Honeycomb isn't really that different, just another skin to add more lag.
The least laggy Android tab I have used is the Flyer - with GB
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GavinReynolds 3 days ago in reply to Generalmishmash
Honeycomb isn't just "another skin", and it's optimized to run at a specific resolution (10" at 1280x800) with a specific amount of RAM and a specific CPU: 1GB / Tegra 2.

Because of the strict hardware outlines, they are able to give a more unified and pleasing experience.
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deekbee 3 days ago
The Hanspree Hannspad costs less (around £150), runs a Tegra 2, 10" screen, can have the various cooked firmwares installed.

Not sure why anyone would bother with the comically named AndyPad.  The Pro suffix means naff all.
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Generalmishmash 3 days ago in reply to deekbee
The Hannspad has a terrible screen and the build rigidity of blancmange
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goaltender66 3 days ago
I don't know...$280 seems kind of steep for what looks to be a throwaway tablet with limited functionality.  The lede to the review seems to suggest the niche is for a kid-friendly tablet.  The AndyPad doesn't appear to target that niche.

As for comparisons to the Kindle Fire, the AndyPad has a camera which helps differentiate it.  On the other hand, you have the Fire supported by Amazon, whereas this tablet is made by a guy who makes bedding.
seventy2rd 3 days ago
AndyPad: 4/10

Conclusion: There's a tablet shortage on the market so it deserves our highest score. As for Andrew....
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ChiefPotato 3 days ago
Just visiting this review to let you know: Its a big mistake you´re dropping review scores.
Sure, we get it, you´d like people to read your reviews and visit the review pages and get more ad impressions.
But without the review scores this site is way less useful to me (and i imagine many others) who just don´t have the time to read each review from start to end. I´m personally way less into any of your reviews now.
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MoreHopsPlease 2 days ago in reply to ChiefPotato
I agree 100% but it won't change. Time to move on (again).
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earls 3 days ago in reply to ChiefPotato
Absolutely not.  Props to Engadget for finally addressing such an obnoxious issue that only caused unnecessary, mindless fits.

Also, thank you for returning the comment edit button.
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BMichaels 3 days ago in reply to ChiefPotato
Mr.Potato, are you so stupid that you can't read something and gather how the writer felt about a product without a silly number system?
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JustaTester 3 days ago in reply to ChiefPotato
But you'll never get the full story from the headlines, which makes it hard-to-impossible to make informed decisions. Scores are nice, but one persons 6 might be another persons 9, depending on what qualities are important to you. Personally, I'm happy we don't have to deal with "it deserved a ___ because the ________ got a ___" comments anymore.
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OfficerX 3 days ago
Hahaha another cheap POS iPad copycat!
btw, I am now addicted to Engadget's daily crapdroidblet reviews.
Thank you.
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Hermulus 3 days ago
Moving right along...nothing to see here folks...
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Votemeup 3 days ago
Its just a renamed china pad, all these people go to shenzhen china look around, find no name tablets give them a name and try to resell them
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Grant Baxter 3 days ago
So its a China tablet but from the UK, made in China...
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Votemeup 3 days ago in reply to Grant Baxter
The exact same as the "scroll options " tablet , from the UK but really made in china. And its complete junk
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deekbee 3 days ago in reply to Votemeup
Those "Storage options scroll" tablets make me feel queasy.  Useless little things.
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MatthewGibbons 3 days ago
Pretty balanced review I thought. This along with the relatively positive first impressions on T3 (http://allthingsandroiduk.blog... will help Andypad sales and who knows, maybe their next tablet will blow us all away.
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WinDroid7BookProPad4G 3 days ago
There is absolutely no point to this device now that Amazon has released the Kindle Fire. Even before that, you had the B&N Nook Color that could be rooted and loaded with a custom ROM that made it a full-fledged Android tablet for under $300.
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deekbee 3 days ago in reply to WinDroid7BookProPad4G
We're talking about a device thats primarily available in the UK.

Where we can't get the Fire.  Or even officially get the Nook colour.  We have cheaper/better options already available (Hanspree Hannspad, £150).
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Paul O'Brien 3 days ago
Uh, matte screen covering?!? Nope!

http://twitpic.com/6stb5b
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nine0joe 3 days ago
$200 and deal.
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itscanny 3 days ago in reply to nine0joe
+1... it's still too much to buy for the kids.
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nine0joe 3 days ago in reply to itscanny
they at least have to make some money on this though. $160 price drop at the most i think. but then i don't know their input costs, so who am i to judge.
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bl45189 3 days ago
It even comes with a pair of white imitation iPod ear buds...
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maximus6211 3 days ago
Those 3 PROs at the end of the review are enough for me to shell out 180 pounds.
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quippley 3 days ago
this device makes sense if you specifically have kids. its better than giving them your $500 ipad to play with (which I can't imagine anyone doing).
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newreplydotphp 3 days ago in reply to quippley
Ah, too bad, I only generally have kids.
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@patrixmyth (Patrick Smith) 3 days ago in reply to quippley
My kids have been using ipad since it first was released.  They are now 5 and 2.  No cracks, or other damage.  My wife, on the other hand, has gone through 2 iphones in the same amount of time.  Little kids can easily carry the ipad and even if they drop it, it's from 1 ft off the ground, nothing a good case can't handle.  The available software is amazing and having it means the parents get to change the tv from kids shows occassionaly.

Seriously, ipad isn't even close to being expensive for a kid when you compare, for instance, app prices and wii games.  It's no contest.  The author's quip about '2 month's' salary, really got me. If $400 is 2 months salary, then your kids aren't getting this andypad thing, either.
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sc0rch3d 3 days ago
love the earbuds remark!
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Jouni Hätinen 3 days ago
There are too few tablets with a matte screen on the market.
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ok_now_what 3 days ago
Once again... Next!
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Mahapralaya 3 days ago
I can't believe I'm saying this (as a convicted Kindle hater)......Kindle Fire man! No one is gonna beat that price point and spec list. Who needs a crappy camera.
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BertrandsBox 3 days ago in reply to Mahapralaya
Except that this is only for the UK, and the Kindle Fire is only for the US, so yeah...
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goaltender66 3 days ago in reply to BertrandsBox
Are you sure?  Kindle Fire is wi-fi only and I don't see anything in the terms that limits it to US use only.  The other Kindles are now international.
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Fourthletter58 3 days ago in reply to goaltender66
Doesn't matter if it's WIFI only, Amazon sell all their Kindles in the UK except the Fire, we don't even get the Amazon AppStore. Hopefully we will get a launch in the future.
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Mahapralaya 3 days ago in reply to BertrandsBox
Read the article guy. It's littered with pounds to dollar conversions and Amazon references. Sure the product may be INTENDED for the UK, but its available to everyone.
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BertrandsBox 3 days ago in reply to Mahapralaya
"Read the article guy"

Article: "The tablet is currently UK-only"
Way to fail. Hard.
You might want to take some of that advice and apply it to yourself.
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Narom 3 days ago in reply to Mahapralaya
How can you hate the kindle? Its one of the only devices on the Market that's picked it's speciality and done it very well.
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Mahapralaya 3 days ago in reply to Narom
Always preferred the Sony Readers. Organization on the kindles is a mess. I agree they offer the "total package" but for us non-americans, the Amazon service really wasn't that big a draw (whispernet is working where i live now so I can't fault them on that any longer). So what was left was the hardware, and compared to the Reader it was a no brainer.
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Narom 3 days ago in reply to Mahapralaya
Dont assume I'm American.

I always found the Sony readers lacking in my country.
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sighclops 3 days ago
got bezel?
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Mike R 3 days ago in reply to sighclops
There's enough room on that bezel to put two big knobs on there and turn it into a electronic etch-a-sketch.
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rice090 3 days ago in reply to Mike R
Looks like Apple's thinking about something like that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
Attached files

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Mike R 3 days ago in reply to rice090
That was good!
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sighclops 3 days ago in reply to Mike R
aha touche!
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Skeet_Shooter 3 days ago
The price seems way too expensive for that tablet...
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BertrandsBox 3 days ago in reply to Skeet_Shooter
How so? It's got an excellent display, solid performance, good battery life, USB and HDMI ports, and dual cameras. The price seems very reasonable to me!
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Jason Baginski 2 days ago in reply to BertrandsBox
Because you could have bought the Coby Mid7022 back in April for $180.  Everytime I see an engadget post about the andypad, I roll my eyes because its ignoring all the other tablets with similar or better specs for cheaper prices that have been out forever.  I picked mine up in June and its my perfect bathroom puter.
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TouchWiz 3 days ago in reply to BertrandsBox
I don't know..it has a lot of features but does all of them in a mediocre manner. Like the bare minimum. Tbh I'm going to stick with the Fire, the support from amazon is a huge plus.
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nine0joe 3 days ago in reply to BertrandsBox
Unknown brand, sorry but you need to build your name before changing big bucks
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rantpaste 3 days ago in reply to nine0joe
But they're not charging big bucks - this is one of the cheapest tablets available that's not some shady Chinese import. By quite a large margin too..
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elcuby 3 days ago
Amazon is ruling the prices on tables...$100. is a maybe...
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Benjamin Fitchett 3 days ago in reply to elcuby
They've moved into furniture as well?! Is there no stopping their empire???
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pcwzrd13 3 days ago in reply to Benjamin Fitchett
Yeah, I pre-ordered the Amazon Fire Table. They say you get a free cloud with it.
AhmedSamir 3 days ago in reply to elcuby
Avatar... wow!
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eclass82 3 days ago
Soooooo What, at least its better then the playbook :)
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Sailor Cosmos 3 days ago
Matte covering on a tablet screen, FINALLY...
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Nihila 3 days ago in reply to Sailor Cosmos
in first video screen is clearly glossy...
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Theo Gheghea 3 days ago in reply to Sailor Cosmos
+1 SOLELY for your name and profile pic. SM FTW!

/offtopicexcitement
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markbriton 3 days ago
Prices aren't significantly higher in the UK, it just happens that the dollar exchange rate is poor from a UK perspective and prices in the UK always include VAT (similar to US sales tax) currently at 20%.
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Stelios Miltiadou 3 days ago in reply to markbriton
I only wish it was just VAT (and a little bit of transportation).
As an example:

"new" base level Kindle for America - $79. Pop over to Amazon from the UK, we're looking at £89.

Happy to be put right but that seems like a significantly higher price, even with VAT, as a straight conversion of $s to £s would equate to £50.72.

This would be £61 pounds (rounding up) with VAT on.Even with shipping on it (at an extreme, say $20), this should still only be £63.56 net, £76.27 gross... not £89.

EDIT - added a bit of space so that it wasn't just a pile of text and numbers!
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deekbee 3 days ago in reply to Stelios Miltiadou
That base level Kindle at $79 is ad supported.  The non-ad supported variant has a price that comes in a few £ different to the UK version.  Think it equates to around £85.  Not bad at all.
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Stelios Miltiadou 3 days ago in reply to deekbee
Thanks, deekbee, as mentioned in the post I'm happy to be put right.

Thought our version would be ad supported as well.
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urpert 3 days ago in reply to Stelios Miltiadou
I've yet to see any evidence that it's not.
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Paul Hampton 3 days ago in reply to Stelios Miltiadou
The base level Kindle in the USA has adverts, look at the price of it without this.
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Stelios Miltiadou 3 days ago in reply to Paul Hampton
Cheers Paul, as replied to deekbee, happy to be put right.
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Elranzer 3 days ago
Even mattress salesmen skin Android?

Is the "Google Experience" device a dead concept? Or do we have to stick to the Nexus line-up only? I've heard rumors that Verizon is even skinning and allowing bloatware on the Nexus Prime.
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jdog25 3 days ago in reply to Elranzer
Let me end that rumor my friend: http://phandroid.com/2011/09/2...

I could see how that rumor got started because Verizon has only offered one stock Android device and they even changed it's first update(2.1) by taking some things out.
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Elranzer 3 days ago in reply to jdog25
Thanks and it's a case where I certainly wanted to be proven wrong.

Even Verizon's co-first deivce of two (the Droid Eris) was skinned and bloated. My Verizon Droid 1 has stood the test of time with its stock Gingerbread ROM. Looks like the Nexus Prime will be the appropriate upgrade.
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xynta_man 3 days ago
POS craptablets on Engadget? Really?
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sc0rch3d 3 days ago in reply to xynta_man
You can’t enjoy a sunny day without some rainy days.
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ethernone 3 days ago in reply to xynta_man
considering how many there are, its fair to check out the odd better one or two occasionally when they have the time.
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Generalmishmash 3 days ago
Just another cheap Android Pad like a zillion others.
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jdog25 3 days ago in reply to Generalmishmash
That was uncalled for. Stop whining because your jealous.

This tablet is pretty bad though.
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Maleficent 3 days ago in reply to Generalmishmash
But this one's the only one with matte screen!
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sc0rch3d 3 days ago in reply to Generalmishmash
"an inexpensive, 7-inch Android tablet he could fling at kids" - products delivers on its promise....that's a bad thing?

unless the writer is actually going to fling it at unsuspecting toddlers....
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huzzlehoff 3 days ago in reply to Generalmishmash
With the wackest name on the market.
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Generalmishmash 3 days ago in reply to huzzlehoff
Most people in the UK will think of  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A...
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ZubbuZ 3 days ago in reply to Generalmishmash
Whenever I hear it I always think of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A...
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cybe007 3 days ago in reply to huzzlehoff
"and"roid+y+pad = andypad!
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TheMetrix 3 days ago in reply to Generalmishmash
If you have nothing constructive and worthy to contribute or add, then please don't comment

Sincerely.
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lukaszsw 3 days ago in reply to TheMetrix
Why cant he post his opinion?
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fryhole 3 days ago in reply to lukaszsw
They're trolling. That isn't an opinion about the device, and was probably written without even reading the review.
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Schmich 3 days ago in reply to lukaszsw
Sounds like you think that TheMetrix shouldn't be able to post his opinion, irony...and yes, we can go on forever with this.
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lukaszsw 3 days ago in reply to Schmich
No, I didn't write or think that.
What I think is that stating non-vulgar opinion is acceptable and question people who think otherwise.
Pay attention