David Abraham · Top Commenter · Works at DFMedia Studios
Twitter has a "Timeline" too -__-
Reply · 18 · · Friday at 6:09am
Mohammad Fadin · Director/Programmer at Creative Insight Ltd.
hahaha
Reply · 1 · · Friday at 8:18am
David Catalano · President at Modea
Yes, this is going nowhere fast. Two points:
1) this company owns trademarks for "timelineS" and "timelineS.com" (note the S)
Facebook's new feature is called "timeline" without the 's'
While this company could claim marketplace confusion, Facebook isn't using this a a mark but simply describing what it /is/ as David Abraham states above and references Twitter.
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Javier Alcivar · Top Commenter · Guayaquil, Ecuador
David Catalano tell that to all the companies that dared to use an "i" before any product.
Reply · · Friday at 4:40pm
Monshinique Brown · Glendale CC
Until right this moment I had never heard of Timelines website and I do mean never.
Reply · 14 · · Friday at 5:56am
Jenni Brown · Top Commenter · Uni. Nottingham
No one has heard of it. And the people that know about it now still don't care.
Reply · · Friday at 6:23am
Joe Blake · Top Commenter · Sheboygan, Wisconsin
It doesn't matter if they are a big company or a small company, widely known or barely known - a trademark is a trademark.
Reply · 26 · · Friday at 6:39am
Andrew Brackin · Top Commenter
Joe Blake They didn't invent the timeline.
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Nicole Miller · Top Commenter
I wouldn't have given this a second look had it not been for Facebook highjacking a member's URL. What if Facebook starts highjacking everyone's page. :-o
Reply · 7 · · Friday at 5:57am
Chris Stewart · Top Commenter · School of Hard Knocks, University of Life
Exactly. That's a horrible move on their part. Fuck 'em up Timelines!
Reply · 1 · · Friday at 11:06am
Nicholas Hoskins · Top Commenter · San Francisco, California
Yeah, thats... really not cool, on so many levels.
Reply · 1 · · Friday at 11:10am
Gareth MacLeod · Waterloo
I'm virtually certain that's incorrect. They have a very strict policy internal policy of not re-appropriating vanity urls. This has been alleged in the past and has always been debunked.
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Anthony Lysenko · Top Commenter · Works at CEO and Founder at CamCall.me
Facebook will face increasing pressure from existing trademarks and patent thicket. For instance, I have US Patent 7089319 which covers videochat in the browser. Facebook infringes it daily, so by the time I get to force them to court, they better have a nice check ready for me.
Reply · 6 · · Friday at 6:14am
Stanley Bileschi · MIT
I have patent 6501590 which covers doing stuff on the internet, yet somehow I still have to go to work.
Reply · 64 · · Friday at 6:20am
Anthony Lysenko · Top Commenter · Works at CEO and Founder at CamCall.me
Stanley Bileschi, what does going to work have to do with the fact there is infringement? We all go to work.
Reply · 4 · · Friday at 6:51am
Anthony Lysenko · Top Commenter · Works at CEO and Founder at CamCall.me
US Patent 6,501,590 "Display medium using emitting particles dispersed in a transparent host". Inventors Michael Bass, Hans Jennsen. Assigned to UCF. So what was your point?
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Joe Blake · Top Commenter · Sheboygan, Wisconsin
Unlike most of the internet company 1 vs internet company 2 lawsuits, this one sounds like a legitimate complaint.
Reply · 6 · · Friday at 6:05am
Anthony Lysenko · Top Commenter · Works at CEO and Founder at CamCall.me
A trademark is a trademark. Especially filed in the same space.
Reply · · Friday at 7:54am
David Jameson · Top Commenter
It seems like a generic term, so I don't think it is legitimate.
Reply · 4 · · Friday at 10:29am
Achin Sharma · Top Commenter · Founder at Achshar
David Jameson not just term, they have trademark of essentially what facebook's timeline does in the same space. Timeline is generic enough actually, but in context of user data sorted according to time, Facebook's case is weak.
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Jason McMinn · Top Commenter · Blockdot
PLEASE RUN OVER ANY PATENT ATTORNEY YOU SEE.
Reply · 5 · · Friday at 7:52am
Anthony Lysenko · Top Commenter · Works at CEO and Founder at CamCall.me
please get a clue!
Reply · · Friday at 8:49am
Jason McMinn · Top Commenter · Blockdot
Anthony Lysenko get back to work
Reply · 5 · · Friday at 11:45am
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton · Imperial College
yeah, except my uncle, you're not allowed to run over him because it wouldn't do any good, on account of him being dead, whoops! but seriously: patents are nothing but large expensive weapons, now - they don't do what they were intended. trademarks however i can fully understand.
Reply · · Saturday at 9:10pm
Timothée de Laitre · Top Commenter · CEO/Founder at ShopWiz.Me
Facebook's is called Facebook Timeline isn't it? They can't do anything about it. it's like if buzz.com went after Google for naming its product Google Buzz. Pointless.
Reply · 4 · · Friday at 6:08am
Rich Wells · Olympic College
Owning a domain name and owning a trademark are two very different things. I've never heard of buzz.com, but if they had trademarked Buzz in market segments such as communications they may have had a case against Google. Based on your comment, I'd be willing to bet that they had no such trademark. This case is different because Timelines, Inc. does own trademarks which Facebook is violating regardless of them putting their own company name in front.
Reply · · Friday at 9:06am
Timothée de Laitre · Top Commenter · CEO/Founder at ShopWiz.Me
Rich Wells Rich Wells A company named Buzz must have the Buzz trademark to operate with this name anyhow. And apparently they don't have a case giving that Google Buzz and Buzz just are two different trademarks
Reply · · Friday at 9:12am
Rich Wells · Olympic College
Timothée de Laitre Yes, they do have to have a trademark for their company name, but when you file for a trademark you must specify a market segment. I'm not sure what buzz.com is all about, but if the company name is Buzz then they would have filed for the Buzz trademark in a market segment or segments that they would be competing in. Is the company name Buzz? Is there trademark in communications, electronics or internet technology? Adding words to someone else's trademark doesn't mean you're not infringing. A good example is Apple Corps and Apple Computer. Apple Corps owned sued Apple Computer back in the day even though they were in different market segments, but the reason they sued was because they felt that sound effects on Macs violated Apple Corps trademark under the music market. They sued Apple, Inc. a second time because Apple started selling music through iTunes and they settled again. But adding words before or after "Apple" was irrelevant.
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Brad Reason · Office Operations / Marketing / Digital Strategy at Manhattan Cat Specialists
I'm going to trademark "2013" so when the year 2013 hits, all of the calendar companies will have to pay me.
Reply · 4 · · Friday at 9:42am
Andre Lopes Aeon
so true
Reply · · Friday at 1:55pm
Diesel Laws · Top Commenter · CEO & Founder at Barkles
I believe they have something here.
Reply · 4 · · Friday at 5:57am
Sankar McMoonlander · Perth, Western Australia
they got a very valid argument. The only problem is they're going against the biggest giant who can manipulate / doctor the case til the cows come home.
Reply · 3 · · Friday at 6:22am
Michael Rose · Bondi, New South Wales, Australia
Diesel, I like your concept for Barkles. Something good coming out of Australia soon?
Reply · 2 · · Friday at 6:33am
Diesel Laws · Top Commenter · CEO & Founder at Barkles
Michael Rose - Thanks Michael! We are working on a Beta release in approx 2 months - but aside from Barkles there are some great Australian startups here right now: http://www.novede.com/blogs/Owen-Kelly/Definitive-2011-Australian-Startup-List
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Dustin McGrew
Ummm.. from looking at timelines.com for about 30 seconds its nothing like what Facebook does.
Reply · 2 · · Friday at 5:51am
Robin Wauters · Top Commenter · Writer at TechCrunch
What does that have to do with trademarks?
Reply · 10 · · Friday at 5:54am
Joey Blossom · Product Manager/Engineer at Parkmobile USA, Inc.
Here's what the description of the "Timelines" trakemark says: "Providing a web site that gives users the ability to create customized web pages featuring user-defined information about historical, current and upcoming events; and application service provider, namely, managing web sites of others in the fields of historical, current and upcoming events"
Looks like it could be interpreted to be just what Facebook has cooked up.
Reply · 3 · · Friday at 6:06am
Jemar Meezy Souza · Syracuse University
Robin Wauters I think because they're different types of companies in kind of different types of businesses, the trademark might not matter.
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Wes Ninh Nguyen · Charlotte, North Carolina
Based on being in the branding industry for over 5 years I've seen this type of scenario play out like this. Think about the beverage brand SmartWater. If you look closely at their logo you can clearly see it's actually Glaceur SmartWater but the Glaceur name is in very small print. It's very difficult to get such a generic term trademarked. Even though Timelines.com did it Facebook can use their massive master brand and just name it Facebook Timelines and that's the end of the story.
Plus the timelines.com product is timelines of historical events. Facebook is launching this as a personal timeline. NPR said it best yesterday when it described how everyone is essentially curating an autoblography of their own lives.
Here is my theory on why companies sue so much.
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Reply · 1 · · Friday at 7:47am
Anthony Lysenko · Top Commenter · Works at CEO and Founder at CamCall.me
Wes, read up on Trademark law. It does not work this way. Otherwise you could use Wes Apple and Wes Facebook. You can't.
Reply · · Friday at 7:55am
Alexandre Mclean · Top Commenter · Chicoutimi, Quebec
Anthony Lysenko In the case of generic terms, like apple, I have the feeling that it'd be legitimate. If you're selling apples, not Apple clone products, but things related to apple foods and you name it Wes Apple, then I doubt there would be any problems with that.
The thing is, if it's in a different space or market and it doesn't seem ambiguous to customers in regard to another trademark, you can use generic terms like you want in your brand.
Reply · · Friday at 8:11am
Alexandre Mclean · Top Commenter · Chicoutimi, Quebec
Now I'm not talking about using only "Apple" as the brand, but combination with other words.
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Nicusor Dumbrava · Top Commenter
" Facebook hijacked the URL Facebook.com/timelines".
That it's not cool... they should at least redirected to another URL, something like this: "Facebook.com/timelines.com" to eliminate the confusions... redirecting to they own service it's not a smart move for the brand...
I thing they could avoid all this problems just by talking with them and come to a solution together... maybe pay them something for "inconveniences" :)... now I hope they will pay as much as billions :))... stupidity has a high price :)
Reply · 1 · · Friday at 11:40am
Andy Walters
Go to www.fb.com/timelines and you get the Timelines.com fan page. They haven't hijacked anything.
Reply · · Friday at 4:20pm
Nicusor Dumbrava · Top Commenter
Andy Walters, Couples of hours ago they redirected to: https://www.facebook.com/about/timeline
Reply · 1 · · Friday at 4:28pm
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton · Imperial College
Andy Walters they modified it. if http://archive.org had a fast snapshot rate you'd find it was there. unfortunately archive.org doesn't operate that quickly.
Reply · · Saturday at 9:12pm
Justin DiPietro · New York, New York
Just because Facebook is the "world’s largest and most powerful social media company" does not mean they don't have the right to compete in any business they can develop a strategic or competitive advantage in. As for facebook.com/timelines being hijacked, see the recent article trending on Hacker News: http://adrianshort.co.uk/2011/09/25/its-the-end-of-the-web-as-we-know-it/.
Reply · 1 · · Friday at 6:27am
Calum Richardson · Top Commenter
"[...] and leave the public with the confusing impression that plaintiff Timelines is somehow affiliated with Facebook."
I must admit, I was not confused between Facebook's offering and Timelines Inc's completely different product and name... but of course, that could just be me....
Reply · 1 · · Friday at 7:32am
David Shares · Top Commenter · 32 years old
Hey geniuses, it's called "Timeline" not "Timelines". I think that FB redirecting their own FB owned URL is cruddy, but it's the FB domain and you are SOL on that point. If you trademarked"Timeline" you would have a case, but you didn't, you trademarked "Timelines".
Reply · 1 · · Friday at 11:03am
Jagat Sastry
http://www.facebook.com/timelines still refers to www.timelines.com and contains their updates. Has facebook un-hijacked it or was it never hijacked in the first place?
Reply · 1 · · Friday at 12:06pm
Nathan Wright · Grove City College
Huh. Well, last I checked, putting your competition out of business isn't in any way illegal. They might want to go ahead and focus on their other points if they want to impress a judge.
Reply · 1 · · Friday at 7:41am
Todd Bloom · Top Commenter
Ah, yes, the tired old tale of small, never-heard-of company suing someone big for some free publicity in the hopes that one person might try their crummy service.
Reply · 1 · · Friday at 7:11am
Zac Fregoli
Are you serious? They have no other choice BUT to take them to court for it. Facebook releasing the timeline is basically going to steamroll this small company.
Reply · 1 · · Friday at 8:46am
Todd Bloom · Top Commenter
Zac Fregoli Um, no. Even if the company were relevant, reading a bit about what they do it doesn't sound anything close to Facebook's version. Just another publicity grab - if it weren't for this article, I doubt anyone would have even heard of them.
Reply · · Friday at 9:02am
Jennifer Nichols Parnell
Karma is a b****. How may companies has Facebook threatened to sue or has sued with either "face" or book in their name?
Reply · 1 · · Friday at 10:04am
Franco J. Torres · Top Commenter · Mission, Texas
Just like the horse & carriage industry tried to sue Ford for "quite possibly" putting them out of business?
Reply · 1 · · Friday at 7:16am
Josh Rio · Top Commenter · School of Cool
Aye yo Zucky! Flick them a 100,000 ordinary shares and then go sip on a Apple Martini.
Reply · 1 · · Friday at 6:42am
Daniel Kay · Top Commenter
terribly written lawsuit, who are they using? its like a shoot in a foot! I see facebook taking it all they way up in the law system. instead of approaching politely and trying to be bought by FB, they whine like a crybaby, lol, I am sure fb with swallow them in a legal matter and they wont see a dime!
Reply · · Friday at 7:49am
Costas Vourdakis · Champlain College
Looked at timelines.com... If Facebook changes its trademark name to Timelines then maybe Facebook will have a problem. Really no other issue here. Application is different and so is the trademark name.
Reply · · Friday at 6:38am
Francesco Bertelli · Top Commenter · The New York Times Company
what about Memolane.com? I rember tham in Nov 2010 with the same idea...
Reply · · Friday at 8:19am
Eric Lagier · Works at Memolane
We are still around and welcome Facebook Timeline - a great validation to what we do. And if anyone would like to know what their facebook Timeline would look like then just jump on over and try out Memolane.
Reply · · Friday at 12:57pm
Francesco Bertelli · Top Commenter · The New York Times Company
Sounds like they hired Feltron to use helvetica and clone your idea...
Reply · · Saturday at 8:38am
Vincent Flanders
Love the reference to N.W.A. Can't have enough of them.
Reply · · Friday at 10:05am
Bill Ross
That's hilarious. Timelines.com traffic dropped dramatically after the Panda Update since they are nothing more than mahalo-lines (aggregate of content adding no additional value) so I think they have much bigger problems.
They provide little additional value besides organization of other sites content **cough cough content farm **cough cough.
This is a ridiculous accusation to say the least. How dare someone start up a competing service to a "content farm".
@billross
Yanıtla · · Cuma, 07:32
Wes Ninh Nguyen · Charlotte, North Carolina
I totally agree with your sentiment. Innovate or go home.
Yanıtla · · Cuma, 10:03
Jason Kolbenheyer
Should we file a suit? We have a Facebook app titled "Hystories", it's a social timeline; add photos, vids, comments, tag friends and you can choose which friends to follow on the timeline. http://apps.facebook.com/hystories. We've been in public beta for a couple months, ironing out the kinks..
Yanıtla · · Cuma, 07:05
Jason Carr · Üst Düzey Yorumcu
Looks like FB is rolling out pretty much the same thing. Not sure a lawsuit would stand up in court since you're using their platform to develop your app. To my knowledge nothing in the FB Developer TOS prevents them from taking your idea and using it as their own...I could be wrong on this though. This is the risk we all take when we develop useful stuff on others' platforms. At any point these platform owners can wipe you out...we've seen it happen multiple times in recent months which is very unfortunate for talented developers.
Yanıtla · · Cuma, 08:47
Andras Konya · Üst Düzey Yorumcu · St. Thomas TX
No, because it's totally shitty and also breaks my back button.
Yanıtla · 1 · · Cuma, 11:42
Justin Marinos · Jacksonville, Florida
If Facebook Timeline was to hurt anyone, it would be intersect.com which I heard of because of Facebook Timeline so maybe not.
Yanıtla · · Cuma, 07:49
Edwin Dutchz · Nairobi, Kenya
You know what they say..we are living in a world where BIG man eats LITTLE man, and in most cases there is hardly anything to do to avoid it..the BIG man somehow always has his way whether we like it or not.
Unfair it may sound, but its the harsh reality!
Yanıtla · · Cuma, 10:38
Shazwan Shukor · Alor Setar
lol..what a shamed... just because your company name is timeline..doesn't mean u can sue everybody that uses the term "Timeline". it's obvious what is timeline means in dictionary..
Yanıtla · · Cuma, 10:29
Frantzdy Samael Romain · Üst Düzey Yorumcu · Nuveno.com'da CEO & Founder
This is looking like the Netflix Qwikster Twitter problem lol.
Yanıtla · · Cuma, 07:40
Ben Griffiths
Facebook.com/timelines still resolves to the timelines.com's page for me... So either they are lying through their teeth, or Facebook was quick to act on getting that back.
I don't see the services as that similar, especially when they drone on about the civil war entries. FB's timeline is an entirely personal service, not a mass editable almost wiki type global timeline...
Yanıtla · · Cuma, 13:16
Cris O Orlando · Completo
There is a movie, called Timeline, the producers are sueing fb too ? This is just a way to make easy money (today is the 1st day i ever heard about that site...
Yanıtla · · Cuma, 10:11
Diganta Sarkar · Üst Düzey Yorumcu · Expedia'da çalışıyor
As FB starts making money, new trolls will push for their cuts from them. It's obvious... see what's going on in Android world.
Yanıtla · · Cuma, 10:15
Achin Sharma · Üst Düzey Yorumcu · Achshar'da Founder
msft is an absolute troll in case of android. But i dont think these are related. timeline's product is essentially similar to what faecebook is doing, hence the fuss
Yanıtla · · Cuma, 11:19
Vishnu Alexander Acharya
"leave the public with the confusing impression that plaintiff Timelines is somehow affiliated with Facebook" --- uh wouldn't this be a positive for you at least temporarily?
Yanıtla · · Cuma, 12:13
Shaun Robert Connell · Üst Düzey Yorumcu
What's the word for this... oh, right, it's "business". Grow up, Timelines.com.
Yanıtla · · Cuma, 10:15
Dean H Gittings
I own timeline.com. Never considered suing facebook - I should send them a big present for all the traffic and exposure they're going to give me. I anticipate it will be much easier to market my concept now.
Yanıtla · · Cuma, 12:34
Cornel Ot
i think they only want free publicity. does anyone here heard about timelines.com before?
Yanıtla · · Cuma, 11:17
Anthony Lysenko · Üst Düzey Yorumcu · CEO and Founder at CamCall.me'de çalışıyor
it worked!
Yanıtla · · Cuma, 11:48
Jaret Hussamy · VCCS
Fail. This company must be out it's mind to sue Facebook. I hope they get nothing. How can they sue someone if that someone came up with their own version of a timeline? Simply put they can't. Just look below all those web companies made their own timeline. Might as well sue them too right? I could see them suing if someone had the name timelinesontheweb.com That would probably be a better case. This case will get tossed out fast.
http://www.zakon.org/robert/internet/timeline/
http://www.pbs.org/opb/nerds2.0.1/timeline/
http://www.factmonster.com/ipka/A0193167.html
http://www.merchantos.com/articles/informational/internet-timeline/
Yanıtla · · Cuma, 17:49
Mateen Aini · University of Wisconsin-Madison
This is going to be too generic of a claim to be upheld. Facebook timelines vs Timelines...don't think so.
Yanıtla · · Cuma, 12:40
David Nguyen · Üst Düzey Yorumcu
Just like how Facebook "killed" Classmates.com? Yeah RIP Timelines.com.
Yanıtla · · Cuma, 12:42
Nicholas Hoskins · Üst Düzey Yorumcu · San Francisco, California
Oh what Facebook shitting on the little guy? What else is new.
Yanıtla · · Cuma, 11:08
Mike Phelps · Dallas, Texas
Checkout the latest entry in timelines.com.
Sep 30, 2010 - Timelines gets annihilated by F.
Yanıtla · · Cuma, 13:06
Eric Ed Muller · Edelman'da çalışıyor
Interesting to see how this shakes out.
Yanıtla · · Cuma, 10:35
C.J. Windisch · Slash8'da Co-Founder
Foursquare didn't sue, just adapt and win anyway.
Yanıtla · · Cuma, 12:13
David A Smith · Üst Düzey Yorumcu · London, United Kingdom
Timelines /= Timeline.
Yanıtla · · Cuma, 16:36
Felix Sulla · Üst Düzey Yorumcu · Rome, Italy
Why not go on and make PickingYourNose a trademark? Then you can sue everyone for infringement.
Yanıtla · · Cumartesi, 01:29
Nik Icang
Intresting page
Yanıtla · · Cumartesi, 18:22
Matthew P. Johnson
I think this is a ploy to get their name out there. I checked out their site and it is not all that well designed. I do not like the new facebook timeline for multiple reasons but it is totally different from timelines.com.
Yanıtla · · 23 hour
Hugo Archambault · Beloeil, Quebec
Facebook : “Timeline is the story of your life'' is a nice feature but.... A lots of web site will be affect! The worst affected case I've found is clearly Http://Lifetimebook.com.
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