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Daryl Yeo · Subscribe · Top Commenter · Carnegie Mellon University
This article is wrong.
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Edmund Rojas · Top Commenter · Works at Facebook Hater
I couldnt even make it the whole way through the article it was so absurd, I wish I could get those 45 seconds of my life back.
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Edmund Rojas · Top Commenter · Works at Facebook Hater
Funny reading the reactions of people on google+ who read this article LOL https://plus.google.com/103037366582313115962/posts/JNrUU4pRbj8
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Adam Israfil · M.S. 101
I love Google, but Google+ just doesnt seem to be working. I'm in highschool and no one I know uses it. I just read a mashable article that says they're trying to get politicians to use Google+. Is that the other side of their marketing strategy? I wouldnt want people with a 10% approval rating promoting my product.

You can see the funny reasons why people a leaving Google+ and which social networks are struggling to keep users coming back on ProfileGraveyard.com
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Matt Galo · Top Commenter · NBC Universal
Just looking for a reason to hate?

Let's face it, Google+ is doing social the best possible way.
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Martin Baskett · Boulogne-Billancourt, France
You're clueless. On the same topic, read "Don't Give Your Users Shit Work": http://zachholman.com/posts/shit-work/
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Sarah Perez · Subscribe · Top Commenter · 123 subscribers
Martin Baskett I second that. Despite the language, that's a great post.
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Tundey Akinsanya · Top Commenter · George Mason
Martin Baskett It's not "shit work" if it's something that can't be automatically inferred reliably. You had to type in your comments, right? Would you consider that shit work?
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Rob Tyrie · NexJ Systems
This post exhibits poor analysis and poor communication.

Try to do the same thing in facebook in ONE MINUTE like the commercial. Re-read your article. Re-write your article. I am appalled at the editorial control at Techcrunch -this should not have been published. The article makes little sense. It's a rant for rant's sake by someone who has not tried to manage a set of interconnected social networks.

Relationships are hard. Building them and keeping them current on social networks is hard. Getting the network right is valuable. Allowing real people control and ease over creating overlapping group is important. Google is the closest in doing that right now. There is room for improvement everywhere.

Techcrunch needs to analyze and communicate more profession. This is complex topic, but bad analysis by inexperienced journalists just confuses the issue.The rhetoric devalue the work even more.
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Thomas White · Top Commenter
Have to agree. The post implies that to see things differently than the author would be moronic. I realize that this is only a blog, but how about a little more objectivity. There may be weaknesses with the Google+ approach, but surely it is obvious that automated categorization of something as subjective as human relationships would also be fraught with problems.
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Paul Douglas · Top Commenter · University of Portsmouth
Um, you can easily do this in one minute on Facebook. Removing people from Lists is a One-Click operation and Facebook allows you to add people to lists by searching which any fool can tell you is faster than hunting for an icon to drag and drop.
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Ariel Castillo · Top Commenter
Paul Douglas Lol, you haven't use Google+ have you?
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Drew Olanoff · Subscribe · Top Commenter · San Francisco, California · 109 subscribers
How is any service supposed to know that you fell in love with someone? I think this ad demonstrates technology purely as an assistant to reflect how you feel. What you're asking for is kinda robotic.
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Max Woolf · Subscribe · Top Commenter · Carnegie Mellon University · 450 subscribers
Facebook can track the amount of times you communicate with a particular user. Maybe Google has algorithms that can tell if you're hitting it off with someone of the opposite gender?

The only issue I see is if you're getting friend-zoned.
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Tundey Akinsanya · Top Commenter · George Mason
Max Woolf One could say it's the people closest to you that you communicate with least frequently on facebook (or other social media). So a lot more has to go into it if facebook (or google) wants to determine relationships automatically.
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Brandon George · Top Commenter
Max Woolf Why does it have to be with someone of the opposite gender?
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John Richert · William & Mary
The problem with Google+ is that it takes too much time to actively maintain 2 social networks and everybody's already on Facebook.
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Ken Gorab · Newton High School
You're right; the best move for Google+ is to have some kind of Facebook integration so more people feel comfortable with the move. Then, eventually when people are comfortable enough with +, they'll make the change. People don't like big changes, and starting completely anew with a different social network is a major turn-off for people who fail to see the plus side (no pun intended) of Google+. Most people, like my mom for example, don't really care about Google+ because they're already so comfortable with facebook that they don't see the point to change. There needs to be some way to bridge the gap in the meantime so more users migrate to + and then eventually facebook will fizzle out like it deserves to.
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Daniel Jones · Subscribe · Managing Editor / Founder at SBWire
While I agree that managing two social networks is a pain, in fact, I manage more than two daily, I think this argument was once used in regards to Facebook / MySpace. It is not an easy road for Google, but it is not impossible.
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Ariel Castillo · Top Commenter
Google+ is not there for people to move over. Ultimately, it is a way to concentrate what matters for Google. Consolidating, the aspect of the brand into a single, effective and objective final goal.

Google already posses the users. You use, chrome, android, youtube, Google search. Fact is, like I said; When Google+ becomes the main pinnacle to Google, then sure, sing me the Facebook song again. In the long run? Google+ got it sealed.
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Gen-Nam Lam · University of Southampton
It would be terrible if the service move people around for you, imagine if it assumed your boss was put into your friends circle without your knowledge and you posted some crap about work to your friends! Automation is not the way forward if you want to mange your privacy!
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Jim Silverman · Top Commenter · Hoboken, New Jersey
circles seem to work just fine for Kyle. Lisa seems pretty happy with the system too, considering she's micromanaging her friend lists with genuinely impressive ease.

short of pre-cognitive software, I'm not sure what you expect a social network to do. but, haters going to hate.
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Sarah Perez · Subscribe · Top Commenter · 123 subscribers
Since you asked, something like this: http://techcrunch.com/2011/09/13/facebook-officially-unveils-smart-friend-lists/ (which Google is clearly doing, given the acquisition )
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Tundey Akinsanya · Top Commenter · George Mason
Sarah Perez But that's not fool proof, is it? How's facebook gonna know your "creepers" or the love of your life? Not saying it's not possible but it's certainly not 100% complete or reliable. So circle management will still exist.
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Jim Silverman · Top Commenter · Hoboken, New Jersey
Sarah Perez - the problem is, no algorithm can determine that the user currently considers someone a "creeper." and even if it could, then the algorithm would be pretty creepy too.
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Sean Turner
The thing is, it's really not that hard to make a quick update to your circles when someone posts something that causes you to reconsider your relationship with them. Just hover over their name above the post and move them to another circle. It's usually right at the moment when you interact with someone (or read something they've written) that you might re-think your view of them. If that could be extended to other forms of communication outside G+ (and it shouldn't be hard in Gmail or on Android devices), maybe circle management would be a little easier. And then, around 2021, when we all have Android chips implanted into our heads, circle management could become as simple as combing our hair. :)
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Neil Bryant · Top Commenter
It is hard.

I have 1 million other things to do today other than consider every single interaction with my friends, classify my feelings, and then update a piece of software that I am not sure anyone else is really using.
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Sean Turner
You may be making this more complicated than it really is. I've had no reason to change more than a handful of circles since G+ launched. There just hasn't been any reason to, generally. But, I lile the fact that I can if I want to.
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Sean Turner
Darn this keyboard - "I *like* the fact.."
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Albert Tseng · UC Berkeley
Algorithms that automatically sort your friends for you can rely only on data from your digital interaction with your friends, which definitely does not account for real-life interaction, meaning that you must at some point manually digitize parts of your relationships.

Plus, the point of Google+ circles isn't just so you can create a neatly organized catalog of your friends; as you pointed out yourself, it's to mimic the different social circles we have in real life so that we may choose how we interact with each of them. If in real life you have just one big gigantic social group, G+ circles would be useless for you; if you choose to have many, however, then you must do the work to make sure your digital social network of choice reflects that complexity. Don't be lazy ;) Google+ already makes it very easy.
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Andrew Nino · Subscribe · Writer at AppTudes
Personally I feel as though this ad intends to demonstrate that you can do any amount of micromanaging that you'd like.

While Kyle keeps Lisa in the single circle because his feelings for her remain the same, it also helps show us that you can keep a few core circles and with that place someone within it and leave them there.

Lisa on the other hand demonstrates that you can micromanage friends across a broad range of circles as your feelings for the person change and so on.
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Eugene Linetsky
It's just a biased article. IMHO, G+ is way better than FB, for reasons best discussed elsewhere.
BTW, you don't even give me a chance to comment from my G+ account.
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Stefan Lange · Subscribe · Hannover Üniversitesi
guess why - there is no g+ comment plugin
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Ian Hsieh · Top Commenter
The only problem I have with Google+ so far is that a lot of my friend/family doesn't like Google+ because they thought that it's just another Facebook. Oh, and no multiple admin on Google+ Pages....
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Ariel Castillo · Top Commenter
Stefan Lange Google comment plugin?
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Josh Constine · Subscribe · Writer at TechCrunch · 804 subscribers
You nailed it. Circle management is a massive source of friction and is hindering Google+'s ability to gain traction with mainstream users. Also, the last thing you ever want to bring up in an ad for a social network is creepers. "Acquaintances" would have worked just as well and not made everyone thing G+ is for stalkers.
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Ariel Castillo · Top Commenter
You make of circles what you want from them. Wanna simplicity? stick to simplicity. I got 4 circles, where is the friction to that?. Ah, the guy supporting frinctionless sharing. What to expect?.
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Ricardo N Feliciano · Information Systems Technician at U.S. Navy
That ad shows exactly what you say friendships are, dynamic. That's the whole point of the changing circles.
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John 'Scrubs' Roepke · Local Partnerships Specialist at Google
Even on Facebook I have to change my "relationship status" when I enter or disband a relationship.
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Max Woolf · Subscribe · Top Commenter · Carnegie Mellon University · 450 subscribers
Just say you're "In an Open Relationship"!
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Sean Turner
With everyone. Just in case.
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Barry M. Goodknight · Subscribe · Top Commenter · Naples, Florida
can we just let G+ die already? it's on the death bed and it wants to go in peace...let it go already.
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Ariel Castillo · Top Commenter
I like that this kind of comment only appear in G+ negative articles. Amusing.
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Sam Johnston · Subscribe · Director, Cloud & IT Services at Equinix
Circles are actually one of the single biggest blockers to Google+ adoption — per Roger's theory on the diffusion of innovations there are 5 factors affecting adoption and Google+ scores poorly on all of them:

Relative Advantage: Google+ offers little more than Facebook, and what it does offer (e.g. Circles) is trivially replicated and of questionable value.
Compatibility: Google+ can model arbitrarily complex social networks, but so can Facebook (see above).
Complexity: Google+ is far too complex for the average user, who would prefer simple/flat relationships, or concentric rings (e.g. close friends vs friends vs acquaintances).
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Eric Andresen · Subscribe · Zürich, Switzerland
Circles are a pain in the ass. Maybe it's a factor of the "initial setup" problem, but I find managing circles in G+ to be more difficult than managing [traditional] lists in Facebook; and smartlists are even less painful...
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Sam Johnston · Subscribe · Director, Cloud & IT Services at Equinix
By increasing the complexity and reducing the trialability, Circles are perhaps the single greatest barrier to adoption of G+ — and due to the sharing model there's not really any way around them (you need to add people in order to get added in return, without which you only see public content).

Automation is difficult to get right and dangerous to get wrong so I doubt Katango will fix it (even if integrated immediately) so the only real option is to bury them. After all, lists are buried in Facebook/Twitter so advanced users can still use them but they don't interfere with normal users.

I guess you've already seen my post in which I went into more detail about diffusion, sharing models, etc.:

http://samj.net/2011/11/infographic-diffusion-of-social.html
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Andrew Lumi · Subscribe
Sam Johnston You don't get it right.

"Google+ offers little more than Facebook, and what it does offer (e.g. Circles) is trivially replicated and of questionable value."
Don't compare Google+ with Facebook, because Google's real plan for G+ is not just to create a social network, but they want to make it the center of everything we do on the internet. All of Google's services will eventually become integrated, glued by G+ and Android. Like Bradley Horowitz famously said, "We've shipped the 'Plus', now we're beginning to ship the 'Google'." Now you see the bigger picture?

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Reivaj Og · Groruddalen skole
Yes, the circles feature needs to be improved, but do you remember what gmail was like a few years ago?
- You couldn't drag and drop files to a message.
- No message preview when loading.
- You couldn't check (or fetch emails from) other email accounts.
- No tags.
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Michelle Patient
It's the content I would like to categorize into circles - not the people.... Technology, Genealogy, Embroidery, Friends updates, etc....
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Lyndon Bredenkamp
You can. Just create a couple of sparks (saved searches)
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Ian Hsieh · Top Commenter
And with the help of Hashtags
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Ariel Castillo · Top Commenter
I wish circles inside circles...
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Jason Ling · Subscribe · Top Commenter · Richmond, California
The only thing that commercial taught me was that if I had a ski vacation home, I have a better chance with the girl I may be stalking.
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Nikola Jevtic · Top Commenter · Marina del Rey, California
May I interest you in a time share...
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Ricky Yean · Subscribe · Top Commenter · Palo Alto, California · 120 subscribers
I have Rudy Adler in my creeper circle too!
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Chris Chen · Subscribe · Top Commenter · Troy High School
I thought he looked familiar!
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Charles Ames · Los Angeles, California
I disagree vehemently with your assessment, Sarah. I have disjoint groups of relationships with disjoint interests. The lack of something like Circles has been a huge obstacle to my full-throated commitment to using social networks. I have long maintained two half-assed profiles on two networks (Facebook for grandma and old high school friends) and LinkedIn for people who know me professionally. Google Plus's Circles is a huge step in the right direction, at least for me, and just about everyone I know.
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Jose Vieitez · Stanford University
That's ridiculous. I love the idea of circles. If it were here 4 years ago.

I am horrible with names and have all my fb friends in groups to help me remember, not to target email them.

I did this one at a time as I added them. But I would never go back and sort all my friends. Waste of time and inefficient. G+ is therefore asking me to waste my time... And be inefficient.
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Richard Holman
What is scary is how some people jump to defend google+. Saying they hate the article and the writer should be removed from our universe, but not why the article is flawed. In some cases ironically doing the exact thing they accuse the article of. The author references circle micromanagement as being a barrier to most (not all) and points out how the TV ad is blissfully unaware. I bet Google themselves would agree it could be improved. At best you can disagree I don't see how it's so offensive.

Did I miss something? Did commenting on google+ start WW2?
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Earnest Pettie · Top Commenter · Homepage Editor at Break.com
There are many people who have pointed out flaws in the article. I'll give you an example of a flaw. His premise assumes a conclusion that most of the people commenting here think is invalid: "Circles don't work." In fact, I enjoy using the circles, and I use them to filter the information I'm seeing at any given time. Sometimes I want to know what my Los Angeles-based friends are discussing. Other times I want to know what my "Blacks In Tech" are discussing. I use circles to filter the posts accordingly.
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Richard Holman
Sure I don't personally agree either. I think Google will change how people use social media. That's a difference of opinion or maybe she is just talking short term! i.e mentioning google aquistion of a firm that may address the issue.

Maybe I shouldn't be so hasty to read between the lines but I also don't think she is saying EVERYONE doesn't get circles just that a large number of people don't. Just because youself and the other 30 commenters use them doesn't change this. You give some good example of how they work and I think more and more people will adapt, some people never will though.

When your dealing with millions of users even a minor issue for a small % of the user base can be significant. This definatly seems to be much bigger then that as evidenced by googles actions referenced in this very article.
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Earnest Pettie · Top Commenter · Homepage Editor at Break.com
Richard Holman But are people who actually use(d) Google+ complaining about the circles? The biggest complaint I hear is that there's no one there, which may or may not be due to the circles. I don't think there's adequate data to suggest that a large number of people do or don't "get" circles. So I still take exception to the premise, wherein she asks us to accept her conclusion that they don't work.
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Petros Giorgos Sideris · Top Commenter · University of Western Macedonia
How the heck do articles like this get here. You are supposed to be the most read tech site on the planet(close enough). Bad language, bad facts, biased and heavily opinionated. English is not my native language and I could write a better article with my eyes closed.
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Ariel Castillo · Top Commenter
Bcoz this is the Facebook pond for Trolls alike to bath and mouth shit they don't like... You see, they haven't taken this obvious FBook plugin for people to log in with other services. Gotta prove you something.
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Ben Patterson · Subscribe
Lisa's the creep. Aside from "book club," circle her Circle upgrades were "having a car" and "ski house." If the other "Maybe" had a "Private Jet" or a "Brownstone" circle then Kyle would be booted to the "Ex-BF" Circle pretty fast.
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Sean Lancaster · Abone Ol · Üst Düzey Yorumcu · Grand Valley State University'de Professor
All I know is that Google+ and Circles work very well for me to be goofy or serious when I want. Facebook, not so much (who has time to retro fit 400 or 1,000 Fb friends in groups?).
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Ariel Castillo · Üst Düzey Yorumcu
I got 4 circles. I sure would love to know how are they hard to maintain?
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Will Hays · Lincoln, Nebraska
Bad analysis. This is a good commercial about one of Google+ strongest features and why for me it is a better way to manage your friends list than Facebook. Better luck bashing next time, Sarah.
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Spencer E Holtaway · Üst Düzey Yorumcu · Zynga'da UI Designer
I hope Kyle doesn't see that ad. ***awkward***
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Tomás Oliveira · Üst Düzey Yorumcu · Instituto Superior Técnico
Oh the horror of interfaces! I wish there weren't any. Clicking is hard.
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Lee Owen · Üst Düzey Yorumcu
Come on Sarah, go to a meditation retreat or something.
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Keven Elliff · Chimacum, Washington
Folks the issue here is with Circle management overall. Very few of us with lives, jobs, THINGS TO DO have either the time or the inclination to spend all day moving people around as the ad indicates. So while I agree that it would be BEYOND creepy for this task to be handled automatically, I think Sarah's spot-on - Circle management is an inherently weak part of the Google+ offering.
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Eduardo Fenili · Üst Düzey Yorumcu
Except it's not required. Feel free to place everyone into 1 circle, tada your problem is solved.
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Keven Elliff · Chimacum, Washington
Eduardo Fenili Agreed. But the ad models a different expectation.
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Keven Elliff · Chimacum, Washington
Eduardo Fenili And what's more - doing as you suggest doesn't seem to be what Google _wants_ you to do with Circles. Just seems like a better management interface would help. Perhaps when they open up their API, we'll all have better tools to manage our Circles.
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James Gee Gunaca · Üst Düzey Yorumcu · San Francisco, California
Lists/Circles were introduced, primarily, to combat the complaint of "I don't want my boss/parents/etc. to see post x, y or z". An automated service will almost never be perfect for everyone...if you want the ability to manage this then you go back to which is easier to use/manage. And, honestly, Google+ Circles are much easier and less cumbersome to manage than Facebook's "Lists".
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Robin Ashe · Üst Düzey Yorumcu · UBC
Facebook still doesn't know who my girlfriend is. We've been dating two years and live together. It puts her in my "other friends" list in the chat bar at the side, hasn't even figured out to put her in the regular one. So much for smart sorting. (Of course I only listed that I'm in a relationship, not whom it is with, but isn't the point this article is trying to make that Facebook just figures it out for you?)
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Steve Simitzis · Üst Düzey Yorumcu · Its complicated'de çalışıyor
Agreed, and I'd go a step further: What we see in the ad is all the effort required to categorize and manage a single connection. Multiple this by 100 or 500 or 2000 and forget it. The flip side is that no algorithm and no person can read our minds. No one observing my life from the outside would have any idea how I feel about each individual person in my life.
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David Abraham · Abone Ol · Üst Düzey Yorumcu · DFMedia Studios'ta çalışıyor
Circles are not perfect but they are different enough that it gives people a reason to be curious about Google+. Once they check it out it's Google's job to retain them. So far I think it's doing better among intellectuals and photographers, but not so well among the shoot the breeze type of people. I'm not sure they really need the latter.
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Dan McDermott · Abone Ol · Üst Düzey Yorumcu · The Lynchburg Times'te Publisher
Correct. A lot of people think Google+ is trying to replace facebook. It is a different thing. I use both and you need to.
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George Adams · Abone Ol
I'm sorry, but the truth is that both circles and lists are stupid...for an average person. It's a problem 95% of people don't have, apart from a few social geeks. If you really want to share something privately, you can use messages or chat on both fb & g+.
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Ariel Castillo · Üst Düzey Yorumcu
I don't know mate. Im of those who like to share something important with a bare of people, so. Disagree in list or circle being stupid. Maybe stupid people think of them as. But for effectively approaching people you want to thing you desire to share. Circles is genious.

Wondering, why and how are 4 circles any problematic?
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George Adams · Abone Ol
Ariel Castillo At first I thought they were useful, now I'm just shoving everyone to "Friends" or "Follwowing" , and on facebook I dont use lists at all. Subscribe and friending is enough 4me
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David Whiteman
Instead of humanizing technology, this makes G+ feel clinical and process driven. Rather than show up a flaw in functionality, it exposes Google's naivety in thinking more and better features will be enough to win in social networking. G+ should be aiming to solve a problem. Right now, it's still a solution looking for a problem. This clunky video confirms it.
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Efferman J. Ezell · Abone Ol · Üst Düzey Yorumcu · Greensboro, North Carolina
I agree with you 100%.
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Kevin Pierce · Üst Düzey Yorumcu · Ingersoll Rand'da çalışıyor
Kyle, is still in Creepers, as drag and drop is a DUPLICATION action, not a MOVE.
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David O'Brien · Abone Ol
Is there a way to post this reply for instance, which I'm sure none of my actual real life friends want to read among their hundred or so friends newsfeeds, only to my subscribers?
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Edmund Rojas · Üst Düzey Yorumcu · Facebook Hater'de çalışıyor
this article was an all time epic low for techcrunch, and that's really saying alot.
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Tanay Potnis · Manipal Institute of Technology
I don't know about google's social portal. but I can say the 45 seconds clip is nonsense. lets be frank. out relationships don't live on the web. they live on earth around us. u cant have discrete borders and well defined categories for your relationships. the promo does just that. Lisa keeps putting Kyle in different circles as she gets to (possibly) know him better. Where does G+ stand in that? how is G+ in any way responsible if a girl who knows another guy starts liking him? Isn't it odd? G+ should first get its purpose right. is it going to do the same thing as facebook or is it going to foster a rather redundant cause of us sorting people? go figure..
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Jersha LP Grace · Abone Ol · AIESEC in Manipal University'de çalışıyor
woah well said Tanay !!!
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Ariel Castillo · Üst Düzey Yorumcu
You think? do you know the internet, gets, bigger and bigger? And what do you think is the center to that amount of users's time? Social. Yes, you can create relationship on the web. Yes, they live on earth and NOT only around us. Yes, the internet helps us communicate to those who live on earth. Yes, Social spaces assist people to communicate even easier to those on earth. Apparently, that you haven't been able to, doesn't take points for what the ad want to portray.

Bright one; There is where Google+ stand, making communicating more real not only to those around us. So, what if Lisa met this guy on Google+? This ad got a lot of sense in itself, if seem only those who doesn't use the service, don't get it, there.
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Jersha LP Grace · Abone Ol · AIESEC in Manipal University'de çalışıyor
Ariel Castillo G+ is crap... complete crap... m using the service n i know it. i do not at all approve the whole process of dividing people in groups... or circles as G+ calls it...
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Ali McNicol · Üst Düzey Yorumcu
These articles are retarded. It always starts a flame war and fake 'interaction' by readers which is what the author really cares about. ("hey look my articles comments are very active....give me my paycheck..)

If you like facebook, you like facebook.
If you like Google+, You like plus.
Some like how one works others how the other work.
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Marlon Stevenson · Abone Ol · Heritage High School
Agree that maybe the advertisement wasn't the best. Then I start disagreeing. Personally, I don't want smart circles that stalk me. It's just a little scary. Perhaps if it picks up trends and suggests that I add someone to one circle or subtract them from another. That's cool. But as far as those intimate types of relationships...exes and keepers...I don't feel like it even has a place on a social network. You divide people into professional (geek, developers, ice skaters) and personal (family, Ohio friends, high school buddies) and then there's some overlap. I don't see switching people through circles to be a major issue. It's just adding someone to the right circle in the first place that's an issue. Solution: If their profile isn't filled out, they don't get added.
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Nishant Pant · Üst Düzey Yorumcu · Loqly'da Co-Founder
Sarah, no offense to your article. I guess you expected this kinda feedback but before complaining I ask you to think about the incredible effort that goes into building anything. The complaints are easy - "The highways are so crowded", "Damn Roomba is so dumb", "My Car can't park itself properly", "iPhone sucks"...try building a matchstick yourself and see how difficult is it to build anything and how easy is to complain!
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Pino Bonetti · Abone Ol · Nokia'da Senior Marketing Communications Manager
Imo, it's impossible to defend this feature, for the same reasons Sarah has explained. It's effin difficult, time consuming and... unsexy. If you're a Lisa, you should get a job. And if you're a Kyle then you don't need to create Circles. At the end of the day I don't see the added value. Especially if the social network build around it is 4 years too late.
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David O'Brien · Abone Ol
I don't post this message right now to facebook. I would love to have subscribers who want to hear my every thought, I'd share this post with them gladly, but most of my friends don't want to hear my every utterance.

I would like to have two things, friends and subscribers, and to be able to post things for my friends with all my friends knowing I'm posting only for them, and for my subscribers to only get (and know they're only getting) my public posts.
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Kiệt Tiêu Trương
I wish G+ would fix its Circles layout. Most screens are wide aspect ratio and by having circles management screen split at the horizontal made it the more difficult to drag and drop contacts into the right circle when scrolling is involved.
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Kiệt Tiêu Trương
Then again.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150328165924643&set=a.65236589642.70163.849489642&type=1&theater
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Ariel Castillo · Üst Düzey Yorumcu
Incoming.
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Guzman Salvador
Interesting. Perhaps a Digital personal profile will help. This comes important when social media goes mobile. Our current project (www.yeembo.com) offers a different approach of social interactions. People loves privacy. At least until meet others in the real life. We need some kind of "shield" and new protocols to interact.
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Drummond Buckley
And I get to comment on the article via Facebook. Awesome!

To paraphrase Dave Mathews: Too Many Choices. More options does not always mean a better product. Google seems to understand this when it comes to search the same way that Apple does with software and Facebook and Twitter do with social media.
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Alex Cuervo · Abone Ol
Non-sence. I don't want Google+ or any other social networks manipultaring my circles or Friend groups. There is a reason we sort them a paticular way.
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Andrew Lumi · Abone Ol
Everyone seems to think of G+ as a "social network service" (thus comparing it with Facebook), when in fact Google's ultimate goal is to make it the center of everything we do on the internet. All of Google's services (Google Search, Gmail, YouTube, Picasa, Google Talk, Google Music, Blogger, Google Maps, Groups, etc) will eventually become one huge integrated platform*, glued together with G+ and Android (and quite possibly Chromium OS as well). Bradley Horowitz have said it well, "We've shipped the 'Plus', now we're beginning to ship the 'Google'."

One day in the future a typical Google user, who owns an Android smartphone and a Chromebook, would become immersed in the "Google experience". No other companies can achieve this, not even Facebook**, Microsoft, or Apple. Well, unless one day Microsoft decided to integrate their desktop and mobile OS with their online services and the Xbox platform, AND also acquire Facebook, then we'd witness two titans battle for ultimate dominance in almost all our aspects of life (with Microsoft having the better edge).

* About that Google staff's internal rant which accidentally became viral, he's partly right and partly wrong. They ARE building a platform.
** Yes, Android-based official Facebook phone made by HTC is due for 2013, but can they beat Google's arsenal of online services?
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Dave Tingle · Abone Ol · Loughborough Uni.
- Search - No loyalty, if someone builds a significantly better one they'll eventually switch.
- Gmail - The consumer doesn't really care which Email service they use, I use Gmail, yahoo mail, hotmail and Outlook...lets be honest they're all pretty similar.
- Youtube - Great service, great content, well established...but umm does it integrate well with G+?
- Picasa - Man on the street doesn't really know what it is, more photos uploaded to (you guessed it) Facebook photos
- Google Talk - As if anyone knows or cares about Google Talk. Its just Skype.
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Andrew Lumi · Abone Ol
Dave Tingle LOL they're still building the integration bits by bits and you're whining already? It won't be just shortcuts.
Try using an Android smartphone (Gingerbread+). All photos you capture are automatically uploaded to G+ (hence Picasa). GTalk may not be for everyone, but have you ever done Hangout? it's far superior than Skype.
Google Music is legit, and it has launched. Get your facts straight.
And no, you need not to use G+ to use the services but G+ users will have benefits.
And seriously, you're asking what the benefits are for Google? Better advertising = more income.
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Dave Tingle · Abone Ol · Loughborough Uni.
Andrew Lumi If it's not just shortcuts then what will it be? Because if you're imagining Google as one page with all those things integrated together then I believe Yahoo already tried that. Being clean is king - being messy kills it.

So...what exactly is this integration going to do? And if you don't know, then how can you shout and scream about how good it's going to be?
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Jimmy Bouma-Holtrop · Üst Düzey Yorumcu · Huntington
Was there a memo recently at TC that it was "bash Circles" week, or did that just kinda happen with the new Facebook cheerleader you hired?

But more seriously, I think the most important part of this article was buried towards the end: Katango. When Katango was just an iPhone app for Facebook friends, it got some little notice and people seemed to love it. I consider it a huge coup that Google grabbed them up with seemingly no resistance from Facebook. I think that this will be 10x better than FB's "smartlists" (which as far as I can tell are little more than a repackaging of the old "networks" feature and/or the system parsing my friends list looking for common work and school, kinda useful I guess, but it's NOT "God's gift to friends management" like many seem to believe smartlists to be).

The other thing that nobody seems t...Devamını Gör
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Earnest Pettie · Üst Düzey Yorumcu · Break.com'da Homepage Editor
The problem with this article is that the author's premise assumes a conclusion that people using Google+ reject: Circles don't work. Circles have a utility that goes far beyond simply categorizing your friends. Circles allow you to effectively filter the information you're seeing in your newsfeed. I have a circle specifically for brands so that I can see Techcrunch, LA Times, and other brands updates by themselves. I have a circle for people in tech. I have a circle for people in LA. It gives me great control over the information that I'm seeing, and I love it. If you still haven't gotten past the question of "How am I supposed to maintain these circles?" then you probably haven't spent much time using G+.
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Daniel Jones · Abone Ol · SBWire'de Managing Editor / Founder
I have to say I disagree with the idea of the article on the basis that I actually prefer managing my social contacts in lists or circles. It is not often that I have to move a contact from one circle to another but doing so with Google+ is really easy. The main complaint I have with Facebook is it is not as easy to change the privacy settings of a new post.
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Dave Tingle · Abone Ol · Loughborough Uni.
it is ridiculously easy to change the privacy of a new post, or even a previous post. Just click the settings on the side on that same post to change which list sees it, or if you want it public or even if you want 'only you' to be able to see it.

A lot of the G+ fans problems with Facebook seem to be just made up problems which don't exist.
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Daniel Jones · Abone Ol · SBWire'de Managing Editor / Founder
Dave Tingle I am not saying it is impossible with Facebook to manage who receives a post when managing many contact lists, I just think the way it works with Google+ is easier.
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Dave Tingle · Abone Ol · Loughborough Uni.
Daniel Jones How is it easier than having the privacy control right beside the post as you write the status and then right beside the post when its been made??

And if you haven't yet created the list you want to send to, just click 'custom' (again from the tool right beside every post) and create one. Lists used to be ridiculously hard, now it is stupidly easy.

Lists and Circles are now the same thing, literally EVERYTHING Circles can do, lists can do just as easily and intuitively - and that's just the Facebook 'dumb lists'. Circles are not a differentiator.
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Bryce Vanderschuit(Hotmail'i kullanarak oturum açtı)
this article was obviously written by someone who doesn't know how to make proper use of the circles... they don't limit you at all. hint - one person can be added to multiple circles. explore a little more in depth before you so heavily criticize something.
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Fengming Wang(Hotmail'i kullanarak oturum açtı)
This article shows that the author is a whining baby without devoting any effort to study the subject she talked about. The worst ever article I have read on TechCrunch. I am wondering how come it could pass the editorial par and the journalist should be fired for her carelessness.
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William Halibut · 22 yaşında
"At any given moment in time, Lisa knew who Kyle was to her, but her social network did not. That’s not a feature to brag about, that’s a problem that needs to be fixed." Some fools believe that the way they act online is the same as the real world... Wake up. It will always be a simulation, always a simulaCrum, an approximation. The less the algorithms assume they know me from Something as nebulous as my clicks and Declared interests/thoughtz/favOrite products, the better. This is something that for me would definitely start out as a choice between Self-organization and Computer-gated organization that isn't revealed.
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Chris Huge · Fgwar'da çalışıyor
Google+ is catching up, slowly, but steadily. - Facebook VS Google+ War: http://www.fgwar.com/.
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Nick Fleker Felker · Üst Düzey Yorumcu
I kind of agree. Circles are neat, but Google+ has a lot of things going for it. They should show off some of those features. Hangouts alone is a good reason.
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Coy Davidson · Abone Ol
I love when one of the major tech blogs writes something negative about G+ just so I can read the comments and watch the gplusians go "ape doo doo".
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Ariel Castillo · Üst Düzey Yorumcu
Same. But for Facebookian go a bu bu over it... like the haters they are.
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Luis Diaz · Üst Düzey Yorumcu
keepers...BITCH
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Eric M. Davis · Abone Ol · Üst Düzey Yorumcu
Also what is Lisa doing going to a ski house with 5 guys. lol
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Brett Stubbs · Abone Ol · Üst Düzey Yorumcu · Utah Valley University
You didn't point out the main "Wrong", which is women don't use Google+, and as far as my stream goes, only Pete Cashmore uses G+ anymore.
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Mike Wright · Abone Ol · Üst Düzey Yorumcu
Talking of Ads, I saw this for Xbox Kinect which is fantastic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diy7rkWkDtU and is probably the only Microsoft commercial I've ever liked. I HATE MS/PCs but find myself using my xbox more and more each day for entertainment. If the xbox had a browser which used gestures with kinect I'd use it from my sofa. Probably the only thing MS are doing which is actually innovative (that and surface).
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Sriram Srinivasan · National Institute of Technology, Trichy
Google to come up with circles to manage circles.
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Samir Sam · Abone Ol
Extremely old video was released like a week ago :P
but awesome concept.
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Ramakrishna Kakumani · IBS Hyderabad
Nonsense. Loosing respect for TC.
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Phillip Hagger · Prairie View A&M University
Really just sounds like a hit/hate piece to me. What's hard about managing circles? At a minimum if you wanted something like this you have one group of people that you don't want seeing everything like coworkers. Create a coworkers circle and add them to it. Add everyone else to and Everyone circle. Just can't see where this is a huge task. The second I got into G+ and found friends and associates I knew exactly how I wanted my groups divided. If you're the type of person that just likes to blast your whole life out to everybody and not add those that you don't want to see it then Google+ doesn't offer much for you. For those that want to control who sees what easily its the only option in the game. Only way I could see it being a problem is if you're just over categorizing and creating circles for nothing.

If its the UI that'...Devamını Gör
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Samson Ogunsola · Abone Ol · Üst Düzey Yorumcu · Providenciales, Turks And Caicos Islands
Am on G+ I've tried to invite all my friends to it, but guess what? only one showed up and hey she only have one post! Damn right, only one post..... I barely check it, I only does sometimes when google won't stop shoving it down my throat smh. Google needs to leave social networking to twitter and Facebook. DONE!
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Mark Elton
Hmmm... talking in absolutes is never wise. Surely Circles are as complicated or as simple as the specific user wants them to be? And surely choice is better than no choice? A user can choose to put everyone just into friend circle, a' la Facebook, or segregate friends/aquintances into specified circles. I like the idea of having family, work etc, okay I'm not going to have 'dudes with cars', but it's an example, surely what the ad is trying to do is showcase the capability of circles, so an extreme use of the functionality is required?

Very immature pro-Facebook article Sarah. Not impressed.
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Monco Volonte
How about don't have 10,000 friends who you don't really know or need to communicate with, then managing circles or friends in any space is manageable. FB/+ are being looked at/judged like they are ESP's.....they are not. Circles are fine and quite manageable.
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David Kong · UBC
This analysis is spot on. Relationships are dynamic. It's pretty likely that at any given moment in time, "Kyle" deserved to be in any number of those particular circles - not just one. Secondly, that's a shit ton of work to do, if you're doing that x500 or x1000 people. That's a lot of time "managing" your social network.
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Usman Zafar · Abone Ol · NUST School of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science
I believe if a user creates a circle like "Comfortable" that would automatically merge various categories of friends. in the end, it's upto the user.
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José Angel Yánez · Abone Ol · Üst Düzey Yorumcu · Zunwave.com'da CEO & Founder
Some facts about G+:
1. Everybody is on Facebook, sorry G+ that's a fact.
2. We (Guys at office and many others) have no time to update too sites, that's also a fact.
3. G+ showed up late at the party, not our fault, sorry.
4. This article is pretty bad, and the only thing I see in this ad is a dude making his way out a girl's friendzone, nothing bad with it, just that I rather stay on a friendzone of a girl who thought I was a creeper the first time she saw me, that only makes me like G+ even less.
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Ray Juss · Abone Ol · Hendon School
Just proves how much admin girls have to do on line. Big up Lisa the gold digger making sure Kyle has all the good stuff!
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Efferman J. Ezell · Abone Ol · Üst Düzey Yorumcu · Greensboro, North Carolina
I believe Google+'s lack of utilization by average users has less to do with circles being a hassle to keep updated and less with the algorithmic and technical aspects of circles. To me it has more to do with Google's lack of an adequate social framework due to their failure to understand and utilize the "human element". http://allthingstechandsocial.tumblr.com/post/13487185423/not-understanding-the-human-element-is-why-google
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Javier Alejandro Bastardo Villalobos · Abone Ol
Sometimes I just wonder why do I keep reading TC, really, is this what the page considers quality?
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Brian Schwartz · Arizona State University
Hey it got you talking. Genius. Be sure to AddPlusOneToWebsite.com.
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Luca Candela · Üst Düzey Yorumcu · Sencha'da Product manager
You're over thinking this whole thing way too much. Slow news day maybe?