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Hot, Flat, And Widescreen: The Rise Of The Minitabs

David Fox · Founder at Biomimicry.com
Writen on a Galaxy Tab 7" at a concert where I wouln't bring my ipad.
Reply · 11 ·  · September 4 at 9:51pm

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Reply ·  · September 5 at 12:08pm

Justin Hassler ·  Top Commenter · Washington, District of Columbia
Did you bring a cell phone? You could have written it on that as well...
Reply ·  · September 5 at 3:15pm

Wrencis Johnson · Officer at B.E.Y.O.N.D Youth Organization
Screen's a bit on the small side :-)
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Sir-Bezaleel Ashefor · Lagos, Nigeria
And Someone Tells Me The PC is DEAD? SMH!
Reply · 8 ·  · September 4 at 6:53pm

Tim Dickinson · University of Edinburgh
I like the look of the Galaxy Tab 7.7, but Apple has decided that it too falls foul of Apple's invention of every touchscreen device ever and managed to get that blocked in Europe (via a German court). They couldn't even display it at IFA!

Can Apple please get off its pedestal and actually design/invent something new please. They don't even sell a 7" tablet but they've blocked the best one (yet) from the market. Ugh.
Reply · 7 ·  · September 5 at 4:10am

Pat Park · Works at Praxis Musical Instruments, Inc.
If I recall correctly, it was Apple who introduced the tablet format as we know it today - the all glass surface with minimal buttons. Samsung saw the design and copped it. I think Samsung needs to come up with original designs and stop copying Apple. I don't know if I agree with Apple blocking the Samsung tablet. If anything, they should let the market decide. So far it looks like the market favors Apple products.

If the copycats were so good, the market would be supporting them. This is what I don't get about the Apple bashers, the market has already decided it wants iPads, not a Xoom or Touchpad or Galaxy. They want iPads and iOS.
Reply · 1 ·  · September 5 at 9:32am

Luis Fernando Franco ·  Top Commenter
Hey MG, why don't you just use one nickname?
Reply · 3 ·  · September 5 at 10:26am

Micah A Círrí · Works at AT&T
Your profile pic certainly says enough about your objectivity---or lack thereof. The fan-boy dismissal is probably why no one has cared to address the small-mindedness of your statements.

It is perhaps for no other reason than for blinding yourself by the fan-boy delusion that the market has decided what it wants that you suffer the puzzlement as for why Apple sees it fit to stifle competition. I imagine you were also one to have written off the competition during the first year reign of the iPhone? Or do you still defiantly contend that the 20% share of the iOS dominates the 50% market saturation of the Android OS?
Reply · 5 ·  · September 5 at 10:39am
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Larry Cebula · Spokane, Washington
So sad and annoying that Apple and all the other big tech companies have become patent trolls.
Reply · 4 ·  · September 5 at 11:18am

Steven Echtman ·  Top Commenter
The iPad mini can not be far behind. There is a solid place for a form factor that easily fits in a handbag. Just look at the size of some of the mist popular portable print mediums, pocket books and travel guides. You are basically looking at 6-8" diagonal. (Typed on an iPad, but would be just as happy with something 1/2-2/3 the size.)
Reply · 3 ·  · September 5 at 1:29am

Bradley Horsley
You mean an iPod Touch?
Reply · 2 ·  · September 5 at 5:21am

Jim Kiles · Program Director at FOUR YEARS. GO.
Just get the Droid X2. Amazing machine with real speech to text (horsepower does it).
Reply · 1 ·  · September 5 at 8:01am

Luis Fernando Franco ·  Top Commenter
Soon after S. Jobs… well… is no longer with us?

He said any tablet on a 7" form would be DOA, I don't have the link to that, but I recall was a reaction at the Samsung tablet.
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Shirish Gone · Jntu
If Samsung was Apple, they would have told they have developed a completely new category of device which change the world. Thanks God they don't change the world :P
Reply · 3 ·  · September 5 at 7:12am

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Reply ·  · September 5 at 12:17pm

Jash Sayani · Works at University of Utah, College of Engineering
A laptop is a vital device, at least for most people. A smartphone adds portablity by giving access to email, calendar, documents and much more. Then came 10" tablets, something in between a laptop and smartphone. And now we have 7" tablets, something in between 10" tablets and smartphones! Some might argue but I don't get the point of reducing screen size of a 10" tablet. A smartphone can serve all functionality if portability is needed.
Reply · 2 ·  · September 5 at 3:09am

Akos Szeredai ·  Top Commenter · Front End Developer at Procab studio
good point. but i still believe that all those are a separate breathe. laptops are basically portable personal computers in every sense. smartphones and tablets are another one. mostly because the touch input. in my opinion the touch revolution is yet to come. majority of the touch UIs out there are modeled after the PC so there is room for improvement.

anyway, it will not replace the PC any time soon. simply because there is no device capable to come near the price, performance and flexibility of the good ol' PC.
Reply · 2 ·  · September 5 at 4:23am

Pat Park · Works at Praxis Musical Instruments, Inc.
Jash totally agree. introducing a smaller tablet doesn't increase the size of the pie (marketshare) - it just makes each piece smaller.
Reply ·  · September 5 at 9:27am

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Ade Molajo ·  Top Commenter · CEO/Founder at CompareChecker
Yes tablets are pretty "neat" BUT.. as long as people have have jobs that require work outside office hours (that isn't magically completed by 3 finger gestures), as long as people have kids, who need actual keyboards to do their book reports on etc PC's can't die.
Reply · 2 ·  · September 5 at 3:14am

Pat Park · Works at Praxis Musical Instruments, Inc.
Steve Jobs had a great analogy regarding PC's and where they will end up. The majority of transportation in the early 1900s were trucks. Industrial trucks used for business, moving farm products etc. Then as the populations moved to urban and eventually to suburban areas, smaller cars started appearing. Trucks were still around, but the overall numbers went down as cars became more popular. We still needed trucks, but it wasn't our only means of transportation. Now we have more cars on the road than trucks. Trucks are still a vital part of our economy and means of transportation - they serve a vital need.

Same thing will happen with PC's (traditional desktop computers). Eventually we will find new ways to get the same work done. A new form factor will take over the majority of our attention. The PC will always be there as a central hub, with several devices (tablets, smartphones, Macbook Airs etc.) where we will spend the majority of our time on (work, homework etc). We won't need to be chained to the desk as these new form factors will emerge and offer better comfort while we work. The method of input will be come easier and I think in 20 years we'll laugh at things like a mouse and keyboard. Maybe even sooner.
Reply · 3 ·  · September 5 at 9:40am

Ryan Weingartner · Works at Olive Garden
You misspelled the word "Trains" but other then that it is a good analogy; and honestly you are probably right about the rest too. I will always be chained to a pc because of the work i do on the side. (fixing computers and etc) I have noticed that over the last year I have seen less desktop computers and more laptops and tablets. I suppose it is only a matter of time... I just hope that the government makes using a smart phone while driving illegal, I swear it is more dangerous then a drunk driver.
Reply ·  · September 5 at 2:33pm

Wrencis Johnson · Officer at B.E.Y.O.N.D Youth Organization
I had a HP iPaq with a foldable full-sized Bluetooth keyboard like 7 years ago. You don't need a laptop for a keyboard. Don't get me wrong, I don't think keyboard typing for productivity is going away but more and more users are going to drop the 2-hr battery 6-pound brick that keeps them tethered to a wall to charge and hunting for a wifi hot-spot to get connected.

I don't see too many folks engaged in heavy pivot-table design or dbase construction at B&N. It's mostly web and email on the go. If you have a PC at work and a PC at home, what do you need to do so urgently in between that a tablet can't handle? I think a very, very large percentage of people are going to find that the answer is 'not much'.
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Nick Fleker Felker ·  Top Commenter
I think once things like video chat and email/messaging takes off, the ideas that make up a smartphone won't be there anymore. They'll all just be tablets. Some will be pocket sized.

The Samsung Note is a good example. It looks like a tablet and a smartphone, and it does both. Though once you add in Facebook Messages and Skype video chat, what makes it different than a tablet?
Reply · 1 ·  · September 4 at 9:23pm

Drew Perreault
Tablets are just big phones, or half a laptop (physically and hardware limited) depending on how you use them. Not sure what all the rage is about, reminds me of netbooks (remember those?)
Reply · 1 ·  · September 4 at 8:27pm

Ryan Weingartner · Works at Olive Garden
netbooks for life!
Reply ·  · September 5 at 2:24pm

Hilary Albutt · Western Province Technical College
Now you know why Appl went after Samsung - Samsung has the NEXT BIG thing.

The Samsung note. Not an iPad, not and iPhone size, something comfortable in the middle.

I WANT ONE NOW!
Reply · 1 ·  · September 5 at 4:48am

Pat Park · Works at Praxis Musical Instruments, Inc.
Apple went after Samsung because the Galaxy looks a lot like an iPad. before the iPad came out, how many all glass surface tablets were available? None. All of the tablets were Windows based, large bulky with poor battery life. The iPad was the first to be lightweight, have great battery life and have an incredible app ecosystem. Samsung clearly copied the iPad.
Reply ·  · September 5 at 10:08am

Micah A Círrí · Works at AT&T
LOL What kind of retarded nonsense is that? Being lightweight, having greater battery life and having an app ecosystem are NOT creative inventions, they are not (or rather should not be) patentable! They merely follow the natural trajectory of progression in technology.

Do you expect the competition to introduce large bulky devices of 5 years ago into the market to avoid looking "similar" to the iPad? Why not sue laptop makers as well then? They all pretty much follow a standard set of form factors. Good grief.
Reply · 1 ·  · September 5 at 10:55am

Pat Park · Works at Praxis Musical Instruments, Inc.
i expect the marketplace and the numbers to tell me. You're just another anti-Apple person who instead of engaging in meaningful discussion (and without really adding anything of substance to your argument) wishes to focus on semantics and avoid the real issues. Look at the tablet market before the iPad came out. Then look at it after iPad came out.

These other companies can come up with something meaningful and different. They just haven't done it yet.

If you're going to avoid the argument that the Galaxy and iPad do look alike, then you are in serious denial.

Please grow up and avoid using terms like "retarded". I'll be happy to engage in a meaningful conversation with an adult who knows how to communicate without teenage esque verbal putdowns.
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David McNamara · Saline, Michigan
Can't wait when we have OLED flexible screens that can bend in my pocket...that is the issue with the bigger screens...the phone is too bulky for me.
Reply · 1 ·  · September 5 at 4:39am

Angelina Christopher · University of Lincoln
I think the Life of Laptops are no more so Have fun If it work as the way it shows.. http://www.1socialmediaagency.com/
Reply · 1 ·  · September 4 at 9:58pm

Jarin Udom ·  Top Commenter · San Diego, California
Social media strategy: spam TechCrunch comments
Reply · 1 ·  · September 5 at 9:26am

Rob Brooks · Canadian Channel Sales Manager at AMD
If you don't have an iPad... you aren't a pretentious @ss-hole.
Reply · 1 ·  · September 5 at 10:58am

Justin Hassler ·  Top Commenter · Washington, District of Columbia
Ahh, judging people for owning a product in the most hypocritical way possible. Nice!
Reply · 2 ·  · September 5 at 3:29pm

Adrian Weller · Adelaide, South Australia
The vast majority of iPads don't see the light of day. People aren't parading them around to show them off, they use them for personal entertainment, etc. These people buy them because they are intelligent human beings, and they know a good thing when they see it. I actually make a point of not using mine as often as I would because of that "pretentious" tag. I did the same when I got the iphone way back. The world has caught up, and smart phones are a standard feature of the landscape now. Can't wait 'till the same is true for tablets, and I can use the iPad to its full potential like I do the iPhone.
Reply ·  · September 7 at 12:54am

Rob Brooks · Canadian Channel Sales Manager at AMD
Actually.... the comment is a reverse inference based on Apple's "If you don't have an i...whatever... You probably don't...". The inference is that your just not "cool"...or are not as well equipped to face the world as someone who has one (never could stomach Apples advetising). Now the pretentious @sshole part comes directly from my visit to the apple store where they not only informed me that the dead battery I had in my ipod 3G (which was exactly 13 months old) could not be replaced by me and they would not sell me a replacement battery, but they would, however, replace the entire device for $100. After getting over the initial shock of having someone tell me I wouldn't know how to change the battery, I said fine...exchange it for a new one...here is my credit card. What happened next floored me and pretty much insured Apple would never see my business again on any level... I was told he could not just change it for me...that I would need to make an appointment for about 2.5 hours later...and I quote... "It's kind of like making an appointment to see the doctor"... now if that isn't pretentious, I have no idea what is. Enjoy your equipment (and if you have them - delusions of grandeur) gentlemen. I am quite happy with the devices I have and somehow make it through each day without an apple product
Reply ·  · September 12 at 3:25pm

Alex Moschopoulos · Interactive Art Director at Draftfcb
I still think these new tablets will be the entry that will push the market to adopt tablets.
Reply · 1 ·  · September 4 at 7:53pm

Roger Huitt ·  Top Commenter
great article, John.
Reply · 1 ·  · September 5 at 11:22am

Dan Johnson · Gig Harbor, Washington
Tech companies keep redesigning/introducing new products to keep the interest of consumers who want new products every 12-24 months. And, as others have mentioned, continuing merely to shrink a product size doesn't address the larger changes that can upset the market. For example, one of the reasons we need PCs is b/c of the keyboard. Perfected voice recognition technology could change that. And this discussion is about hardware. But Amazon may just keep coming out with Kindle + products that make the price of I-pad-type tablets virtually free (eventually). Why? Because the bigger story, IMO, will be content-delivery and how that is monetized.
Reply ·  · September 5 at 10:24am

Sardar Mohkim Khan ·  Top Commenter · Associate Consultant at Creative Chaos
As usual, too many of these tabs cum smartphones out there. But keeping my scepticism aside, I opine that the Galaxy Note will be something that makes a difference for the Apple iPad, iPhone competitors. Not that they are doing bad, but just that they haven't really clicked in the tablet business. Maybe the Note is going to change that -

Hopefully.
Reply ·  · September 4 at 11:19pm

Adrian Weller · Adelaide, South Australia
I hope so too. As someone wrote recently (sorry, can't recall who it was) Apple need competition now! Personally I am astounded that these huge potential competitors STILL haven't seriously challenged Apple. I suspect it says something about the level of vision within these companies. I believe the first real challenge to Apple will come from a competitor that does what Apple did - innovate, not copy.
Reply ·  · September 7 at 1:03am

Sardar Mohkim Khan ·  Top Commenter · Associate Consultant at Creative Chaos
Maybe they are intimidated by the very idea of Apple winning the innovation battle. Surprisingly these guys have been in mobile/smartphone business long before Apple was.

In my opinion, the only firm capable of beating Apple at Innovation is Nokia, in terms of hardware, they are far superior and if they only had a great Operating System to help it utilize it fully. Maybe this will change with the coming of the Windows Mobile/Windows Phone platform. I have a lot of hope, as both Microsoft and Nokia need to bring a change.
Reply ·  · September 7 at 1:23am

Paul Denlinger · University of St Andrews
Probably has a lot more to do with the brand companies being unable to secure satisfactory runs of 10" glass because Tim Cook has secured all the supplies for Apple. So they have to sell smaller tabs as being what users want and hope that consumers bite.
Reply ·  · September 4 at 8:46pm

Paul Lancefield ·  Top Commenter · London, United Kingdom
Not sure it's just the 10" glass, I think you will find it's the capacitative display technology under the glass that's the main constraint. Also Apple has a lock on Flash memory at the moment. Gets the best supplies.
Reply ·  · September 5 at 1:58am

Sarwat Jamaluddin ·  Top Commenter · University of Victoria
A 5.3" SmartPhone! Its the END & its Happening! Tablets and Smartphone are merging!►◄.
Reply ·  · September 4 at 7:09pm

Mike A Greco · United States Navy
Negative.
Reply · 1 ·  · September 4 at 7:36pm

Nathan J. Brauer ·  Top Commenter · Lincoln, California
Hey Mike, you have something on your face. Just FYI.
Reply · 5 ·  · September 4 at 8:14pm

Achin Sharma ·  Top Commenter · Founder at Achshar
lol nathan
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Paramendra Kumar Bhagat · Chairperson, CEO, Founder at Stealth Mode
A 4.5 inch smartphone should double up for both the phone and the tablet.
Reply ·  · September 5 at 10:38am

Achin Sharma ·  Top Commenter · Founder at Achshar
where did you get (make) that picture from? ms paint? :P
Reply ·  · September 4 at 8:27pm
boothjoel54487667 (signed in using Yahoo)
I just got a $829.99 iPad2 for only $103.37 and my mom got a $1499.99 HDTV for only $251.92, they are both coming with USPS tomorrow. I would be an idiot to ever pay full retail prices at places like Walmart or Bestbuy. I sold a 37" HDTV to my boss for $600 that I only paid $78.24 for. I use GetCent.com.
Reply ·  · September 5 at 8:24am

Emilio Villafana
I just got a $829.99 iPad for only $9001.42 and my mom got a $5 blowjob for only $2012, they are both coming with USPS tomorrow. I'm an idiot.
Reply · 1 ·  · September 5 at 5:06pm

Adrian Weller · Adelaide, South Australia
lol
Reply ·  · September 7 at 1:07am

Luis Fernando Franco ·  Top Commenter
Remember allmighty Steve Jobs said a 7" tablet was DOA.

How much do you think it'll take to see some iPads in the 7" factor form? And they'll be the underdog in that size.

I love my nook (w/CyanogenMod 7), it has the perfect size to read.
Reply ·  · September 5 at 10:04am

Ryan Weingartner · Works at Olive Garden
Lol, I remember when Steve jobs said, on stage, that apple couldn't make a computer for under $500 dollars that wasn't junk. I think it was maybe 3 years later they announced the Ipad, starting at $499... :D
Reply · 2 ·  · September 5 at 2:28pm

Luis Fernando Franco ·  Top Commenter
And… he was ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!!!!

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